But not in Russia, where the Duma (parliament) voted this week to decriminalise domestic violence against family members unless it is a repeat offence or causes serious medical damage. The change is part of a state-sponsored turn to traditionalism during Vladimir Putin’s third presidential term. It has exposed deep fault lines. Many Russians now embrace the liberal notion of individual rights, but others are moving in the opposite direction.
Activists warn that decriminalisation will legitimise abuse. “The overall message to Russian citizens is that domestic violence isn’t a crime,” says Andrei Sinelnikov of the Anna Centre, a violence-prevention charity.
Sounds like Islamic Sharia Law has taken over.
Yup, sounds kinda like Sharia Law…or Old Testament teachings.
And if Kevin has his way on school vouchers, we’ll see our tax dollars being used to fund schools that teach/promote those kind of religious beleifs here in the USA.
penquin,
You can rest easy. Christ fullfilled Old Testament so civil and ceremonial law does not apply, so there is no justification in Christianity for spousal abuse.
Justification for spousal abuse is only made in some false religions, like Islam, and some godless mindsets.
Regardless if you personally think Islam is “false” or not, a school voucher can be used for a Islamic private school as easily as it can be used for a Catholic private school.
Penquin,
Less than 1% of population is Muslim.
Very few Islamic schools exist.
Even fewer are accredited and qualified to take vouchers.
Not all Islamic values are bad. Some Islamic values are better than the aimless morals in public school system.
So you’re okay with tax dollar being used to promote Sharia Law as long as not too many people attend the school? Interesting theory…kinda like being a lil’ pregnant, eh?
Just to clear it up: Is that really a conservative opinion or is this one of the times you’re acting like a liberal? ’cause keep in mind it isn’t just Muslims…pretty sure that the Satanists, Scientologist, and Spaghetti-monster worshipers would love to get some of that free money too. (And that’s just a few of the S’s…lots & lots of other groups out there.)
We already fund some of those in public school along with climate change cult and evolution cult.
What are you shocked by?
Liberal religions are fully funded.
“climate change cult and evolution cult”
Just examples of things kevin doesn’t want to understand. Willfully ignorant and proud of it.
Big difference is that if a public school is teaching something you disagree with…be it the theory of evolution or the theory of gravity…you have a vote/voice on their school board and can work for changes. If a private school is using my tax dollars to teach voodoo or Wiccian rituals then you say I just have to suck it up and deal with it.
Your selfish attitude and sense of entitlement is making you blind to the reality of the situation.
Penquin,
That was all code for saying secular humanist religion should be the only funded religion in schools.
That is wrong on many levels.
Maybe you should consider taking blinders off.
Let everyone choose which school religion is important to them. Don’t establish secular humanism as only state religion.
Pen:
In Kevins mind it is OK to take our tax money to teach religion, but teaching readin’, riting’ and ‘rithmatic, or the principle of the separation of church and state is a “secular humanist religion” ( quite a humorous oxymoron).
Keep up the good fight !
Oh Nord,
Secular humanist religion denies absolute universal truth and teaches kids they are their own god.
It leads to amplify many of the social problems we have.
I know you are both in denial of state funded religion in public schools….I only advocate choice, so people can escape the state funded religion, that’s all.
Under school choice. parents can still choose to send their kid to state funded public school teaching secular humanism for double the price.
If you support public schools, you are still free to flag waive the expensive, state religion option for taxpayers under voucher choice scenario.
What is the problem?
You continue to get your religious funding, everyone else not playing your secular humanist game gets a mere scrap….equal protection starts to kick in with vouchers.
Kevin seems to define “choice” as “making other people pay for it”.
Next up: Kevin explains how he doesn’t have a choice in which car he can drive and so he demands the taxpayers buy him a new Mustang.
penquin,
“Kevin seems to define “choice” as “making other people pay for it””
That is exactly what the public school system is. Exanding the limitied choices available while saving taxpayer money is a GOOD thing.
“choice”
That word. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Dropping free money on parents who (for whatever reasons) can’t properly provide for their own family doesn’t expand any “choices”…the options have always been there, and you look foolish trying to claim otherwise.
If you take the money from poor and middle class for secular humanist public school by taxes, you strip away the choice for those families.
It restores choice for those families, and saves taxpayers money from expensive public school option.
Pen:
I looked in my Webster’s New World Dictionary and couldn’t find any definition that would make sense as Kevin has been using the word. Up here we have a number of kids of from all economic strata that take advantage of school choice, but all are accountable as required of public schools. I don’t see why we have to create and pay for two parallel school systems just so Kevins kids can get a free or subsidized religious education at my expense.
I would also like to see some reputable data confirming Kevins claim that voucher school cost only half as much as the same public school. It needs to be an apples to apples comparison.
Yes, being poor sucks. Don’t like it? Then stop being poor.
Besides…plenty of poor and middle class folks manage to get their children a good education without an extra-special handout so your defeatist attitude & whining about “no choices” isn’t gonna get anywhere with me. Buck up buttercup, and stop making excuses.
And when you take into account all those other factors you are constantly ignoring then the voucher system ends up costing taxpayers much much more overall.
Did IQ’s just drop sharply?
We spend $14k a year for kid in public school.
Voucher is 7k a year.
Big savings to taxpayer.
Sources?
If those are the only factors we are looking at, then yes…it could be a cost savings. And we could save even more by spending absolutely zero dollars on any education at all, no? However, due to other factors you keep ignoring, the overall cost to the community would still be far greater than it is now.
And actually, that wasn’t your IQ being lowered rather it is your core principles…as a Conservative and as a Christian…that has dropped severely. When it comes to this issue, you’re a godless socialist.
Nord,
I make a deal.
I’ll provide my sources, (which are not that hard to find) if you tell me what your, OBJECTIVE, upper max limit spending on a road project is to save one snake?
Deal?
Read the post regarding the USH 45 project. No snake involved, you made that all up. Alternative facts are the rising trend, and you sure hopped on for the ride…
Thats hilarious!
There is about 3 miles of massive wetland remediation done for the snake on west side of 45.
Come to Kewaskum. I’ll take you on a physical tour of what you deny.
You can’t even admit when taxpayer money was spent.
That is why the agency is the problem.
Nope, there isn’t. You are woefully incorrect and willfully trying to deflect and deceive. Snakes were never an issue. That is per both DNR and DOT. And there is no “3 miles of massive wetland remediation” either. There may be some on-site wetland mitigation (that is the proper term), but it doesn’t have any dimension of 3 miles, and wasn’t built for the snake (which you have yet to identify).
I know a scientific paper, peer reviewed no less, is the last place you would look for information. But here is a good one regarding culverts, and the economic benefits of proper sizing using ecological design principles. Happy reading.
Eric O’Shaughnessy, Matthew Landi, Stephanie R. Januchowski-Hartley &
Matthew Diebel (2016) Conservation Leverage: Ecological Design Culverts also Return Fiscal
Benefits, Fisheries, 41:12, 750-757
Nord,
I’ll give you a tour of the wetlands. Stop by anytime.
I sat (suffered really) through TWO 45 minute DOT presentations over this snake and why project was held up and why it was so much more expensive.
So you are saying Village Board and community Kiwanis Club was lied to?
If you are saying state agency lied to us…good enough for me….proves point anyway.
In all your arrogance and foolishness you still have not said how much is a snake worth in a road project?
Sounds like a lot.
I didn’t say there weren’t wetlands there, or that there wasn’t an on-site wetland mitigation built as part of the project. But snakes weren’t involved, and there is no “3 miles of massive wetland remediation”. That is easily determined by a quick look on the on-line wetland map available on the DNR website. You made that stuff up.
The rest is just nonsense based on your misunderstanding ( perhaps intentionally) of the project components. You probably heard the word “snake” at some point, and seized upon that as the focus of your faux complaint. And your ego will not let you go quietly into the night.
I did the research, followed up with the responsible parties, and determined the truth. Now go ahead and have the last word.
Kevin, if what you are smoking only gave you two 45 minutes hallucination periods, then you are with the wrong group from DOT. At hearings for just one roundabout at 175 and 167, I got hours of pure fantasy … for free!
Could I humbly suggest that next time (because it will increase the intensity and longevity of the high) by interjecting a ridiculous comment? Try “if roundabouts lower pedestrian injuries, how many pedestrians are injured by cars stopped at a stop sign.”
BTW-this post is nearly as off topic as the snakes crawling on my wall.
Nord,
I’d love to invite you to my Kiwanis club…my guest, free dinner. We all vividly remember the “great snake debate” from the DOT 4 lane highway expansion presentation on Hwy 45 to the Club. We remember it because we were all completely incredulous about the additional cost and infrastructure being put in over the one alleged snake.
I checked Village Board minutes. The DOT presentation is still in the minutes, but we don’t have the tape of the meeting anymore…which is unfortunate. I wanted to post it for you here, maybe you could learn something.
bill,
I need to be taking what Nord is taking, he lives his escape fantasy all day it appears. Maybe that is how bureaucrats justify the crazy…through drugs.
–I’d love to invite you to my Kiwanis club…my guest, free dinner.
I’ll be your huckleberry. Maybe someone there could tell me how the value of a snake was “objectively” computed to be worth less than $1. Am also interested in knowing how much an entire species of snakes would be worth to a True Conservative
1.). Who is the say the snake would not survive under the cost efficient project plan?
2.) if the snake is that important, why not just relocate it?
That is how reasonable people think….ergo it is not worth more than a dollar to think about.
Reasonable people would listen to the opinions of actual experts rather than simply making stuff up on the fly.
Just curious – are you ok with any other species being made extinct or is is just snakes that you place such little value on?
This was a garden variety snake.
Experts are BS many times. Especially on climate change scare, ice age scare, population bomb scare, and any other scare tactics they use to libe their own pockets in their pathetic attempt to fund themselves.
It is no different in DNR and DOT.
Pen:
I’m familiar with all the species of snakes found in WI, some more than others, and can identify all by sight. I have left the rattlesnakes alone for the most part, but I can tell them apart.
kevin must be talking about the ultra rare, expensive and quite elusive Scheunemanni imaginatus (common name: garden variety snake). Unlike its close cousins the Hodag and Swamp Mulligan, it feeds almost exclusively on dilly bars, while the Hodag thrives on white bulldogs. The Swamp Mulligan is more omnivorous, dining on whatever it can catch, but preferring wet wool socks and mittens. Because of the unhealthy diet and total disrespect and misunderstanding by the public, the rapidly dwindling population of K. imaginatus is probably headed for extinction. Last known sighting was in the unisex restroom at a DQ near USH 45.