Sigh…
Protesters have clashed with police in cities across the US over the killing of an unarmed African-American man at the hands of officers in Minneapolis.
Minnesota’s governor said the tragedy of the death of George Floyd in police custody had morphed into “something much different – wanton destruction”.
New York, Atlanta, Portland and other cities have seen violence, while the White House was briefly locked down.
An ex-Minneapolis policeman has been charged with murder over the death.
Unlike some previous cases, everybody seems to agree on this one. The cop appears to have murdered George Floyd. He has been arrested and is being tried for murder. We all agree that it’s the right thing to do, but people are still rioting.
The protests about this killing are completely justified. It was an outrageous abuse of police power and we have a right to be angry about it. Even as some of that anger spilled over into aggression, it can be understood. But it is also clear that many people are taking advantage of the chaos to just commit mayhem. We have certainly seen that before.
Two other things may be at play here. First, remember that many people are unemployed and have been cooped up for weeks or months. That has an effect on the mood and psyche. Second, it is an election year. Every four years we seem to erupt with racial tension before the presidential election. This year it happened right as Joe Biden was telling black folks that they “ain’t black” if they don’t vote Democrat. How convenient it is, then, that we stoke the racial fires. If it wasn’t this horrible murder, it would have been something else.
Finally, if the riots were moving through your city and the police were intentionally standing down, wouldn’t you want a gun right about now? Government is always there except when you need them the most. Be safe out there.
Mayor of St Paul stated that every single person they arrested last night was NOT from St Paul.
No question there is a national organization behind the riots.
Perfect synapsis Owen.
Not everything awful and disgusting is automatically racist. Not everyone is racist.
>> No question there is a national organization behind the riots.
I agree, but the question is which one?
There is the video of the mysterious white male “Umbrella man” smashing windows (and protestors asking him to stop)
There is also some reports that some of the people from outside of St. Paul are white supremacists and drug cartels looking to take advantage of the situation. It would not be the first time white supremacists have done so…they did it in Portland (and in the process it was discovered right wing journalist Andy Ngo was working with them. See the links below if you missed this.)
https://www.nationalmemo.com/undercover-video-exposes-far-right-journalist-andy-ngo
https://www.portlandmercury.com/blogtown/2019/08/26/27039560/undercover-in-patriot-prayer-insights-from-a-vancouver-democrat-whos-been-working-against-the-far-right-group-from-the-inside
Who would you shoot, and why? Center of mass?
Kevin, you think cops don’t profile, don’t treat some people differently?
“Who would you shoot, and why? Center of mass”
In Oakland a police officer was shot and killed during the protest.
Thugs at it again.
Jjf,
Who would I shoot?
What kind of question is that?
Awful.
It would be like me asking you “how many kids did you molest today?”
Can we stop with the disgustung, gross, incivility?
4 police officers were shot and killed this.
Not a lot of talk about that.
Should have said 4 cops shot this week.
Sounds like there are white nationalists instigating the destructive riots.
Right Pat, it’s just right nationalists rioting.
But play the race card, you racist, bigoted,lying anti-woman person.
Pat,
And if they are to bodily harm of others, I support execution, whether the instigators are black, white, purple or brown.
Do you?
Stand against all evil, not just denounce evil of some because of skin color.
Nope Owen, I still wouldn’t want a gun. What scenario are you coming up with in your head where a gun is going to protect you or your belongings from a riot? A MASS OF ANGRY PEOPLE. If a riot was coming thru to my house, I would take my family and leave. Pretty simple.
If you think a gun is going to save you during a riot, you are in La-La land. Odds are you elevate the situation and someone ELSE has a gun as well, and I am sure that would end well.
Oh, by the way, the white supremacist thing is going to turn out to be false.
86% of the people arrested are from the Minneapolis area.
U.S. Attorney General: ‘It Appears’ Some Violent Riots ‘Driven’ By ‘Far Left Extremists’, Using ‘Antifa-Like Tactics’
https://www.dailywire.com/news/u-s-attorney-general-it-appears-some-violent-riots-driven-by-far-left-extremists-using-antifa-like-tactics
Antifa and Black Bloc doing what they always do.
Don’t you just love that these liberal mayors and governors let the thugs riot and trash their cities but crack down harshly on business owners because of the Chinese virus?
LIBERAL POLITICIANS:
Hairdresser: throw her in jail!
Rioter: well done, keep going!
Liberals are awful.
Have you told your wife that you’re going to let her home burn to the ground? If so, how did THAT work out for you?
-Economy in the toilet.
-Unemployment higher than the Great Depression.
-Losing end of a trade war.
-100,000 plus dead from a pandemic.
-Rioting in every major city.
TRANSITION TO GREATNESS!
Kevin, don’t you think that now’s the best time to think about what weapons we’ll use, how many clips to ready, and how we’ll attack the rioters as they sweep into our subdivision? Will it be a close-range battle with our 9mm? Or should we just hit ’em with the ARs as they come down the street?
They’re on the move, we need to think fast. They’re in Milwaukee and Madison, soon they’re spread out into the countryside and no doubt soon head to West Bend and Kewaskum, to seize the means of the production of Dilly Bars and Owen’s collection of Le Mis DVDs. It’s not the time to think about police brutality or overt racism or whether we need to address any of that.
And just like clockwork, Dad29 chimes in with his Sunday sexism. What, don’t the women in your life have their own weapons, and don’t need you to do anything but lay down suppressive fire to defend the cul de sac?
I was hoping Dad29 would come around to realize it’s Putin encouraging the white supremacists to break the windows and pre-stage the bricks.
Dad29, first of all, my wife wouldn’t care if this house burned down she wants to look for a new house in general. BUT… even if this were her dream home it is a BUILDING. A place. An item. It isn’t a family member. My wife is actually smart and would realize that anything burned can be rebuilt.
If there is a choice between possibly dying or harming family and leaving behind a group of 2×4’s and drywall, I know what she is choosing. I will go out on a short limb and say that anyone who would stay in a house under the risk of riot or any imperative danger is an idiot.
Jjf,
Just when I thought there were 2 or 3 more liberals on this group more reprehensible and indecent than you, there you are, king of liberal fever swamp, scurrying to the top.
No problem. Give us your address and we’ll torch the joint. Please provide some beer in compensation. Have your wife send a thank-you note, too.
Now that Antifa has officially been declared a domestic terrorism group, Democrats are going to lose their terror wing. Antifa’s leadership and funding mechanisms are going to be laid bare. Aiding and abetting terrorism comes with consequences, even for all of the beautiful people who write the checks but can’t be bothered to get their own hands dirty. Between Spygate, Obamagate, a new anti-Antifa effort, government public corruption investigations in Ukraine, and official Mexican government investigations into Fast & Furious, Democrats are going to be answering questions under oath for a very long time to come.
Buy stock in companies that build federal prisons.
Unlike the brain dead liberals here, I am going rip on a RINO.
Our governor in Arizona has decided to impose a curfew. Not just for the couple of riot areas down by Phoenix but for the entire state.
No matter that I live 200 miles from the riot areas and the only riot around here occurs is when a crack head girl beats up her crack head boyfriend.
The RINO governor either is drunk with power, is totally incompetent or mentally deficient.
Fortunately, it is past the curfew time and the bars, liquor store and massage parlors are still open.
@Mar. Saner heads are popping up in AZ. Several county sheriffs say ‘nope’. Williams, Winslow, too.
I thought Kevin was extreme when he said that execution for the rioters but I think in some cases, shooting by cops should be justified.
Throw rocks, get shot. Throw a Molatov cocktail. Get shot. Fire a gun, get shot. Enter private property and loot and threaten the owner, the owner has the right to take you out. Attack the cops physically. Get shot.
Maybe not to shoot to kill, but enough is enough.
Ironically, the places with the most restrictive gun laws are being hit hardest with the looting.
Aww, a thug tried to tackle a Fed Ex semi truck and now he is a Darwin Award nominee.
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Mar,
To clarify, I support execution of rioters if they cause bodily harm to others, especially police, or cause a fatal homicide. Especially if they are a part of this radical left wing terrorist group, Antifa.
I support life imprisonment for instigators that cause massive property damage.
The general rioter/looter should get 20 years mandatory minimum.
Aww, another case. A thug protestor lost an eye when he tried to throw a rear gas canister back at the police and was hit in the face by another.
As Le Roi would say, it’s his own damn fault.
https://youtu.be/5w7kwtLJtVc
Pat: yawn.
My favorites of the day:
jjf
Kevin was right on his answer to this one. You ask who to shoot and why, but your clarification question is ‘where’? Awful question, just awful;).
Pat
Not that white nationalists aren’t fully capable of shooting themselves in the foot, but why do they want blacks to all vote Democrat (the political result of elevating rioting from the Floyd murder)?
And since Trump went against his own opinions to do what Dems wanted, to shut down the country(covering 1, 2 and 4), we would have to debate 3 separately, and 5 is a liberally motivated condition again regardless of who is President, which of these would not apply to a Dem President?
If you expect greatness from Trump or Biden or Reps or Dems, you fall more in to the “TRANSITION TO IDIOCY” group.
The most cogent words in the thread:
There is cop racism in this country pretty much every day of the year, though hopefully few as gruesome as the televised murder of George Floyd. The highly publicized ones with extreme national coverage always seem to climax during spring and summer of election years.
Frankly, the charge should be 1st degree intentional homicide and the other 3 should be charged with conspiracy to commit murder. They not only did not stop it, their presence stopped others from stopping it.
I don’t see any positive connection for the riots unless politicians are worried that their normal voters might leave them. Riot destruction will turn off most conservatives categorically(keeping their vote Rep), unless the riot damage is specifically and only targeted at the cause of the riots. Meanwhile riots really seem to turn liberals on categorically as it is somehow social justice for the victim, especially the black vote. I don’t see that connection, but liberals condone the idea of rioting as some type of social justice for the victim almost every time.
Biden makes a gaffe threatening the black vote? Find and promote the most egregious act of police racism to make the mercurial public “Look over there!!!” And this time the police union even supported the Republican candidate. BONUS!
Tuerqas, when the shoot ’em up fantasies emerge, I want to hear all the details.
I need my AR to fend off a tyrannical government? Who you gonna shoot, and where, and when? City hall at noon? Capitol at 3? Just anyone walking around, or do you target the tyrannical office staff?
It’s important to differentiate between the protestors and rioters. I am all for peaceful protest, but destruction of property is way over the line. Here is an example:
https://www.newschannel5.com/news/25-year-old-arrested-on-charges-of-setting-fire-to-nashvilles-historic-courthouse
Tuerqas asked, “which of these would not apply to a Dem President?“
I guarantee all of them would be applied to a Dem President.
Came to B&S expecting to not see anything about Trump’s threat of using the military against the citizenry. Molon whatevs!
>Came to B&S expecting to not see anything about Trump’s threat of using the military against the citizenry.
Owen has said many times that he blogs about what he wants and nothing more. Yet you still come here and take a passive-aggressive swipe at him. Must be your white privilege making you think you can be a cyberbully. You should do something about that racist problem you have.
You think it’s unfair to ask about what’s not here?
Of course he’s got the right to write about whatever he wants, in the fashion he desires, and to manage the place as he see fit.
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Dude, take your morning meds and go for a walk in the sunshine. Find something to smile about.
Merlin, jjf just hates it when people tell him the truth about his racism, how many times he was proven wrong about the Chinese virus, how many times he has been proven wrong about climate change.
It sucks to be a liberal and being wrong all the time.
I do wish the military was in in Las Vegas. A thug shot a cop in the head and the cop probably won’t make it.
If the Vegas cop dies, this will be the 2nd cop to be murdered during the thug riots.
Maybe those of us who support the cops should go in the inner cities and destroy their businesses.
Oh, wait, that’s already happened.
jjf, I was agreeing with YOU, dumbass.
Pat
That was my point super-genius, how can you throw up a bunch of statements you attribute to Trump and call him a bad President when all of those statements are conditional of the time and would have applied to anyone who had been President the last four years?