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1242, 08 Jul 20

Court Rules in Favor of Religious Freedom

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(CNN)The Supreme Court on Wednesday threw out two job bias lawsuits brought by teachers against their religious employers, reaffirming that religious institutions and schools have a First Amendment right to select their employees.

It’s the latest case to come before the court exploring the relationship between church and state, and in their 7-2 ruling, the justices clarified the class of employees who are barred from suing their religious employers under anti-discrimination law.
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“Today’s important decision does not mean, as some suggest, that religious institutions are above the law or that they have a license to discriminate,” said Richard Garnett of Notre Dame Law School, who filed a brief in support of the schools.
“It means, instead, that a crucial dimension of our Constitution’s religious-freedom guarantee is that civil powers are limited to civil matters and that state lacks authority to second-guess religious decisions and doctrines,” he added.
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1242, 08 July 2020

20 Comments

  1. Randall Flagg

    Excellent example of public and private schools not being treated the same / held to the same standards.

  2. Tuerqas

    I totally agree…wait are you saying it’s a bad thing?  I mean, apples and oranges can be held to the same standards, I guess, for freshness, ripeness, and they are both fruit.  But they are different types of fruit like public and private schools are different types of schools.  I am not going to fire all the apples for not being citrus.

    Ah the liberal way; men and women are all the same, different species of animals are all the same, children are all the same and they should all be treated the same.  Unless they are flawed, I guess.  Then they get special treatment, rules and laws to…what? pretend to be more the same?

  3. Kevin Scheunemann

    Public schools can fire for same reasons.

    Unfortunately, woke godless administrators never see those reasons as wrong.

    This is a standards problem. Public schools do not have any.

  4. dad29

    Generally speaking, parochial schools have “morals” clauses in their employment contract.  It’s a waste of time to explain “morals” to some on this discussion board, but that’s the way it is.

  5. jjf

    Dad29, would it be easier or more difficult than explaining why churches needed billions in PPP?

  6. Jason

    With over 650 billion paid out. Sounds like religious organizations received about 1 to 1.5% of that. Is that what you want to focus on?

  7. Randall Flagg

    Tuerqas:

    Some on this board have claimed public and private schools are held to the same standards.

    I pointed this out to show they are not.

     

  8. Randall Flagg

    It’s a waste of time to explain “morals” to some on this discussion board, but that’s the way it is.

    I agree, but I bet we would disagree on who.

  9. Tuerqas

    Ah, thanks Randall.  Yes, the dual nature of the question will always be a topic for contention among political opposites.  Private schools are held to the some of the same standards, so your opposites are right.  However, they are also held to different standards in other categories, so you are also right.  Since no one will ever agree to define terms with their opposite, you will be doomed to fall in and stay in these rabbit holes, fighting and biting, instead of seeing all the common ground the political overlords don’t want you to recognize.  Sad

  10. jjf

    Tuerqas – as I always say, the one thing that Wisconsin’s Lutherans and Catholics can agree on is that they like that sweet public money for their religious schools.

  11. Kevin Scheunemann

    jjf,

    So do the woke godless….

  12. Tuerqas

    Tuerqas – as I always say, the one thing that Wisconsin’s Lutherans and Catholics can agree on is that they like that sweet public money for their religious schools.

    And you disagree, of course.  Those religious kids should not be supported, just yours, right?  No kid except religious kids left behind, right?  Really socially motivated, eh?

  13. jjf

    Tuerqas – Just change the Wisconsin Constitution.

    “Section 3. The legislature shall provide by law for the establishment of district schools, which shall be as nearly uniform as practicable; and such schools shall be free and without charge for tuition to all children between the ages of 4 and 20 years; and no sectarian instruction shall be allowed therein;..”

    You get a “free” public education says the Constitution, but if you want to be taught religion, pay for it yourself.

  14. Jason

    That says that they don’t teach religion in public schools, it does not say that public funding cannot go to private or religious schools.  Try harder johnny.

    That same Section also goes on to allow for kids to be released from public schools during school hours to attend religious instruction!

    Your interpretation therein is blinded by your bias.

  15. dad29

    That says that they don’t teach religion in public schools, it does not say that public funding cannot go to private or religious schools.

    Yup.  But ‘none so blind as they who will not see’ should be a screen-name…

  16. Randall Flagg

    Ah, thanks Randall.  Yes, the dual nature of the question will always be a topic for contention among political opposites.  Private schools are held to the some of the same standards, so your opposites are right.  However, they are also held to different standards in other categories, so you are also right.

    The opposites claimed they were held to ALL the same standards, so even if one is different (and more than one is) they are wrong.

     

  17. Jason

    Look at that Dad… foust has sniped another discussion.

  18. Mar

    Oh boo hoo, jjf.
    School choice is constitutional. Get over it.
    So, go change the constitution.
    Meanwhile, I don’t want to pay for public defenders, Philosphy classes at the universities, welfare for booze hounds and drug users sensitivity classes for public employees.
    So, I think I will throw a white privilege temper tantrum like jjf did.

  19. jjf

    Anyone care to tell me why Madison and Jefferson were wrong about avoiding government sponsorship and entanglement with religion?

    Your religion won’t ever readjust its belief and expression in order to curry favor with the people who hand out the pork?

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