I have no doubt that she is. And many people who have had their lives disrupted feel the same way or worse. But this is yet another example of an American Elite who is utterly tone deaf. It reminds me of how the celebrities were putting out videos of how “we are all in this together” and how staying at home sucks… from their 24,000 sq. ft. mansions.
Former US First Lady Michelle Obama has said she is suffering from “low-grade depression” because of the pandemic, racial injustice and the “hypocrisy” of the Trump administration.
She said managing “emotional highs and lows” required “knowing yourself” and “the things that do bring you joy”.
Mrs Obama said she has had difficulties with her exercise routine and sleep.
“I’m waking up in the middle of the night because I’m worrying about something or there’s a heaviness.”
She made the comments during the second episode of her eponymous podcast, for which she was interviewing US journalist Michele Norris.
“These are not, they are not fulfilling times, spiritually,” Mrs Obama said. “I know that I am dealing with some form of low-grade depression.
“Not just because of the quarantine, but because of the racial strife, and just seeing this administration, watching the hypocrisy of it, day in and day out, is dispiriting.”
So the average person – “who have had their lives disrupted feel the same way or worse” – who presumably says the same things… are they utterly tone deaf, too? Or does it depend on their house size or personal wealth or some other important measure of hypocrisy?
You just want to insult Michelle Obama…. because… because why?
Some days I think you just spit a word salad and don’t examine what you’ve posted.
Living pretty large for someone with depression.
“Some days I think you just spit a word salad and don’t examine what you’ve posted.”
LOL… self-awareness, much?
Coo coo!
I totally disagree with this being tone deaf in any sort of way. Admitting that she has the same emotional responses as others regardless of your status in life or financial status is a positive thing.
Tell us why Obama is “utterly tone deaf” and why the other regular folk who feel the same way – by your own words – are not.
Yes, of course it is President Trump’s fault.
But as Le Roi would say, it’s her own damn fault.
First thing I thought of was how difficult it would be for someone with 40 million in assets to feel the bite of fear that with the job losses they can no longer provide for their own families, that people who are not marching, don’t see the tensions from either side hurling insults, rocks or bullets, and have no fear it will be through their neighborhood. I mean, Obama did give up his ‘job’, but he will be paid a lot more than most of us make to be retired for the rest of his life. Any gig or speech he or she does will be gravy. Those with the resources to do something about it other than tell us how ‘they feel a heaviness’, ring a little false in most any non-Dems book.
I wouldn’t call it all tone-deafness either. I would call some of it something closer to disingenuous garbage. For instance,
As someone as immersed in politics as a first lady, she certainly knows that the fire of racial injustice will largely fail right after the elections, as per usual. With the paid Dem organizers pulling out at that time it will only have professional sports to keep it going until…the next election. (She will probably have that particular cloud lift right around then) Then Dems will pick a new death in the future out of a hat that depends purely upon election timing, and give it the news saturation that the last 2 elections got for Freddie and George.
The ‘raging hypocrisy’ (depending upon which professional misinformation machine you listen to) of every Presidential admin of the 20th and 21st century has been pretty consistent, whether on twitter, under security, or just the target of some ‘Gate’. The only consistency being that they all got away with a lot more than they got caught doing. How much did the Obamas help the plight of the black man? Way less than George W Bush anyway.
No mar, I didn’t say that. You are making stuff up again. Does lying make you feel more important?
“Tone deaf” would seem to mean:
And Owen said “I have no doubt that she is. And many people who have had their lives disrupted feel the same way or worse,” so I don’t think “tone deaf” means what he wants it to mean.
It sounds more like Owen just wants to be mean and cruel to his perceived enemies… the very hallmark of GOPism and Trumpism these days.
The Cruelty Is The Point – even when it doesn’t make a lick of sense.
“No mar, I didn’t say that. You are making stuff up again. Does lying make you feel more important?”
Lying again Le Roi The Liar Hater.
You have said previously that people who commit suicide or have mental illness are not strong enough and they need to be stronger.
You are such a liar, Le Roi The Liar Hater.
This why you have no respect.
Or brains.
Or ethics.
Or dignity.
You are just the Huggies Natural Wipes of being a human being.
No mar, I didn’t say that. You are making stuff up again. Does lying make you feel more important?
Ever notice Mar never gives links or proof when he says people lie. We are just supposed to take his word for it.
Kind of like we are just supposed to take President trump’s word it’s in “the manuals.”
And mar, once again, doubles down on his false claims. He is sooo predictable. And now let’s see if he goo for a triple-down.
Dumbass Le Roi The Liar Hater, you have said several times here that people who commit suicide are too weak to overcome their problems and it is their fault the commit suicide and die by OD.
You don’t think most of those people suffer from some kind of depression?
You are such
Dumbass Le Roi The Liar Hater, you have said several times here that people who commit suicide are too weak to overcome their problems and it is their fault the commit suicide and die by OD.
You don’t think most of those people suffer from some kind of depression?
You are such
If there were several times, you should have no problem linking to the posts as proof. Or, as our friend Mr. Hitchens said:
“What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.”
Hey Randall, I am not your personal librarian.
But since you insist.
In a post about opioid overdose deaths on July 23, I wrote:
“As Le Roi has sai, it’s their own fault.”
And Le Roi responded “It sure is mar, unless you can give a detailed explanation of how taking opioids isn’t a choice.”
So, once again Le Roi The Liar Hater lies again.
That is not a link to the quote. You could be taking it out of context.
You indeed do not have to prove anything; that is your choice. But if you don’t, there is no reason to believe your claims.
Sure thing, mar, taking drugs is a choice, and I’ll stick to that. But that isn’t what you claimed, “But as Le Roi would say, it’s her own damn fault.”
I wasn’t referring to the former First Lady, I was referring to folks that intentionally took drugs. You, again, are making false claims based on your own false assumptions. So predictable.
Or maybe you feel such a need to process every conservative word through your very narrow and negative belief in what conservatives are and how they think, that you twist all their words until their messages are mean-spirited or cruel or stupid, even though they no longer even make sense after you twist them. Then you conclude that they don’t make sense.
T:
So what you are saying is that Owen may feel such a need to process every liberal word through his very narrow and negative belief in what liberals are and how they think, that he twists all their words until their messages are someone being “a tone deaf elite”, even though they could easily be someone looking to help others by sharing her experience.
Tuerqas, I don’t think Trump is a True Conservative, do you?
I repeat Owen’s words and bring in the dictionary definition, and I’m the one twisting words?
Saying you’re sad and worried isn’t “tone deaf.”
Saying you’re frustrated because you can’t even get your Bentley detailed? That’s tone-deaf.
Owen just wanted to take a swipe at Obama… because why? Because in his bubble, this sort of attack is normalized and expected.
I don’t think Trump is a True Conservative, do you?
Given the number of people who claim to be conservatives and support him, it really doesn’t matter in my opinion. They have defined Trump as a conservative, and in doing so, have defined what they see as acceptable for a fellow conservative to say/do.
You’re just delusional Le Roi. You said the same about people who commit suicide. Most all of them have depression or some kind of mental illness.
You own the quote. Deal with it.
Randall, I guess I have far more respect for what were once considered the core tenets of conservatism. They didn’t include the open and gleeful mean-spiritedness we see today.
Still clueless about accurately labeling conservatives and Donald Trump. Carry on with that genius for at least a few more months. Invest everything you have in it.
Yes I did mar, and I hold by what I said. Suicide is a choice.
Merriam-Webster defines it as:
“the act or an instance of taking one’s own life voluntarily and intentionally”
Spin that however you want, but you are still wrong.
Still clueless about accurately labeling conservatives and Donald Trump.
Have conservatives rose up en masse and said Trump does not represent us? Have they put forth a challenger to Trump in the next election?
Since the answer to both of these is no, it is fair to label Trump a conservative, and that other conservatives believe what Trump is doing meets the definition of conservatives.
In fact, many who criticized Trump now praise him, so there is further proof conservatives believe Trump aligns with their ideology.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dEyUXNrw8Q
RF:
Exactly right. So you look at actions to see where the truth of matters lies. That goes for anyone including me. I won’t pretend to know Michelle Obama’s true motives and if it actually helps some people, yea! But I do know that jjf habitually ignores words of others and replaces them with his own to change the meaning, so I know it applies to him. And I do know that I and Owen and likely a lot more people including liberals will feel emotions closer to “How dare you” than “Thanks that helps” to hear how multi-millionaires feel the same way as us.
If Owen’s post material had been from the Koch brothers and evinced support for them feeling bad, I fully believe that you and jjf and Le Roi would be saying exactly what he said about Mrs Obama. I think ‘tone deaf’ would be downright rosey compared to the words the three of you might use.
RF: Still clueless about accurately labeling conservatives and Donald Trump.
Bullsh!t. Conservatives have not been even partly represented since the 80s, and only indoctrinated Reps and Dems think differently. Conservatives tried to break away with the Tea Party, but the Republicans suborned the movement and brought them back under their false label of conservatism. I am a conservative and the only Rep I have ever voted for was Reagan’s second term.
No T, I don’t care what the Koch brothers say or think, so your argument doesn’t hold up.
But don’t accuse jjf of ignoring and replacing the words of others unless you include the fact-averse “conservatives” that regularly twist and spin the words of others. You are smart enough to know who they are.
Conservatives tried to break away with the Tea Party, but the Republicans suborned the movement and brought them back under their false label of conservatism.
And the conservatives stayed and lined up behind Trump, showing they tacitly agree with the R platform.
I am a conservative and the only Rep I have ever voted for was Reagan’s second term.
I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. Neither party embodies that, especially the fiscally conservative part. Scott Walker was not fiscally conservative and neither is Tony Evers. Trump is not either, nor was Obama.
So I find myself regularly voting for Ds and Rs and Ind’s based on the person. I have never donated to a political party. I have never put a sign in my yard.
I don’t belong to any party. My opinion is that people join political parties because they want (or need) someone to think for them. I don’t need or want that.
Wrong.
Randall, I guess I have far more respect for what were once considered the core tenets of the faux-conservatism common today. They didn’t include the open and gleeful mean-spiritedness we see today.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Tuerqas:
A lot of it comes from the mixing of the terms Republican/conservative and Democrat/liberal. They are not synonymous and yet POTUS, other polticiians, the media and such use them interchangeably.
So anyone who belongs to the Republican party and follows the action of Trump thinks they are a conservative. They are not, but until real conservatives rise up en masse against Trump’s brand of conservatism, it will continue.
And yes, the same things happens with Dems who think they are liberal….
Okay, I am fairly certain virtually no one cared about what Michelle Obama said about her heaviness either until Owen brought it up, and I am also pretty sure you would comment if Owen wrote something glowing about how a Koch brother felt bad about something that rings false for a multi-millionaire to say. It wouldn’t be because you cared about him, but you are you and I may be wrong.
When anyone twists or changes my words, I call them on it. Are you suggesting I need to add a caveat anytime I call someone out for changing MY words that many others do it to many other people’s comments too? Do I need a specific world-wide list of groups? Seems a trifle silly and irrelevant to me, so no I will not add such a caveat. I will keep it relevant to my commentary unless maybe I am sucked in to someone else’s argument.
Fully agree and have said virtually the same thing myself. It may be my bias, but I have felt that there is not near the divide between a liberal and Democrat. Especially since the prevalence of national PCism began. I feel like liberals do not feel free to denounce anything Democrat so if there is a distinct difference, it does not come out in many conversations.
I have felt the same in the other direction. Look at how many “conservatives” criticized Trump before the election, but now defend him.
For example, Trump said awful things about Ted Cruz’s wife, but Cruz stepped right into line after the election. So did his wife.
” I am also pretty sure you would comment if Owen wrote something glowing about how a Koch brother felt bad about something that rings false for a multi-millionaire to say.”
Nope, as I said before, I don’t give a rats patoot about the kochs. And I had nothing to say about the former first lady until our highly educated friend from AZ brought me into the conversation.
The twisting of words and fluid definitions seems to be the standard MO of a couple of self-avowed “conservatives” on this blog, so I was just pointing out the inconsistencies. You are free to criticize whomever you please.
Yeah, I guess you are right, Randall. That is just me judging others after my own heart. I try very hard not to do it, so thanks for pointing that out.
So you may not be the first commenter Le Roi, but I still believe you would happily pile on in an insincerity crusade started by jjf or RF.
I still see no ‘inconsistencies’. I was talking to jjf about jjf, I did not generalize to liberals or any groups. But thanks for changing your mind and allowing me to criticize whomever I please caveat free, so generous of you.
Jjf:
NO! Trump is not a true conservative, imo. Sorry, I did not see the question before. To be honest, I had always been more of the conspiracy follower that Trump was a Dem plant to get Hillary elected, but Trump is just too ego ridden. He had to try and beat her, and did.