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0817, 08 Oct 20

Wisconsin Republicans Are Complicit in Evers Shutdown

They have the power to act. They refuse to do so. As I said in my column supporting Trump… watch what people do – not what they say. All of this from Vos and Fitz is just useless bloviating. If they refuse to act when they have the power, then they are tacitly agreeing to locking down Wisconsin’s businesses and putting people out of work. Make no mistake, it is Evers’ fault, but the refusal of Republicans to act makes them collaborators. I understand the politics involved, but the business owners and employees being harmed deserve action.

MADISON — Speaker Robin Vos says Gov. Tony Evers’ emergency order requiring public gatherings in indoor spaces to be limited to 25 percent of capacity violates state law, following the Wisconsin Supreme Court’s recent ruling blocking the governor’s earlier stay-at-home order.

“With cases once again rising, it’s clear the governor’s go-it-alone, grab bag approach to responding to the coronavirus has been a failure,” Vos (R-Rochester) said in a statement Wednesday afternoon.

The speaker further called on Department of Health Services Secretary-Designee Andrea Palm to submit the emergency order to the Joint Commitee for Review of Administrative Rules, “as required by law.”

 

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0817, 08 October 2020

42 Comments

  1. jjf

    watch what people do – not what they say.

    O RLY.  Because what would go wrong if we also considered what people say?

  2. Jason

    >Because what would go wrong if we also considered what people say?

    Like spinning up and hosting a parody blog for years?  You know, just to insult and throw shade at people you disagree with…  That was “doing” and “saying”.

  3. Jason

    Evers and Palm are displaying a gross lack of understanding of legal procedures and court decisions…   the new order signed by Palm actually references the SC decision that slapped down her previous order.   DUHHHHHHHHHH

  4. Merlin

    It isn’t that they don’t understand. They do. They just don’t care.

  5. jjf

    Jason, who made a parody blog about you?  Show me on the doll where they hurt you.

  6. Jason

    >Jason, who made a parody blog about you?  Show me on the doll where they hurt you.

    That’s your defense for your shitty actions and words?  Well if that helps you sleep at night, along with the ambien, then good for you.

  7. jjf

    Jason, what on Earth are you talking about?

    Are we talking about why you think it’s a good idea to insult and dox and throw shade at people you disagree with?

  8. Jason

    >Are we talking about why you think it’s a good idea to insult and dox and throw shade at people you disagree with?

    We are talking about how you act like a victim while being a bully.

  9. Tuerqas

    I fully agree with Owen.  I will never forget Fitzgerald mistakenly telling the truth on the air (I believe with Charlie Sykes) that the then veto proof Republican House and Senate majorities would not pass the Taxpayer’s bill of rights about 20 years ago.  The reason they admitted they were elected for.  He said, if they passed it, what would the incumbents run on in the upcoming election cycle.  That was the last time I voluntarily listened to a State politician and even thought about voting for a Republican, when they joined all the city Dems who always left their needy constituents needing more.

    There is only one base line reason Democrats never actually help the minorities that vote for them and it isn’t racism by most definitions, though it fits jjf’s definition of institutional racism perfectly.  If they actually ever did get them out of poverty, they might start voting Republican.

    Keep’em down and keep’em Dems.  The Democrat Party motto.  (Not for you liberal voters kept in the dark and being fed BS, just for the actual politicians)

  10. jjf

    No, really, Jason, you’re the one insulting and doxxing and “throwing shade” at people you disagree with.  I haven’t doxxed you, I haven’t called you names.  Where’s your injury, where’s the justification for what you do?

    Tuerqas, there are plenty of people opposed to systemic racism who point to the flawed policies put forth by both parties as well as policies implemented by private industry and private organizations.  After all, the problem is the racism.

  11. Mike

    I thought the legislature acted when they originally passed the law limiting emergency declarations to 60 days.

    I thought the court acted when they upheld the law.

    Now it’s time for the AG to act on Evers misconduct in ignoring the law.

  12. Jason

    >Now it’s time for the AG to act on Evers misconduct in ignoring the law.

    Sounds like the Recall Evers group has more than enough signatures to allow the people to act on his misconduct.  Hey Pathologist Foust, maybe you can start using this as reason number 1 for the spike in Covid Cases in WI?  Instead of stupidly sharing anecdotal evidence you claim from being a Walmart Greeter?  Or are you just a cart corral ranch hand, not really allowed inside the store?

  13. Mar

    “Or are you just a cart corral ranch hand, not really allowed inside the store?”
    Umm,my son is “cart corral ranch hand”.
    Please don’t use that and jjf in same paragraph. jjf could never, ever handle a job like that.
    He works in a basement, my son works outside in the Arizona heat and actually works 8 hours a day.
    jjf could never do that.

  14. Jason

    Cheers for your son!  An essential worker cleaning up after lazy liberal shoppers who just leave their carts all over, rather than expend a little more energy to take them back to the store, or one of the numerous cart corrals in the parking lot.

  15. jjf

    Greeter?  No, I work on the database that pays Mar’s son.

    But tell us all about your work experience, Jason.  You’ve done databases, worked in the hot sun?

  16. Jason

    Why not behave yourself, set an example for others? You get a particular tingly thrill from insulting other people? Makes you feel powerful?

  17. jjf

    I’m quite thrilled.  Tell me what you’re wearing.

  18. Jason

    So you want me to set a better example, even after that response? You’re a fucker, I’ll give you that.

  19. jjf

    All you need to do is stop doxxing, stop insulting.  Tell us about your work experience.  A perfectly civil request.

  20. Jason

    Why not behave yourself, set an example for others? You get a particular tingly thrill from insulting other people? Makes you feel powerful?   

  21. Tuerqas

    Tuerqas, there are plenty of people opposed to systemic racism who point to the flawed policies put forth by both parties as well as policies implemented by private industry and private organizations.  After all, the problem is the racism.

    Sure there are many who belong to both parties, just not any politicians.

  22. dad29

    as well as policies implemented by private industry and private organizations.

    Surely you have specific current examples of both, right?

  23. jjf

    You do a lot of reading about systemic racism, Dad29?

  24. jjf

    Let’s pick your favorite private organization, Dad29.  The Catholic Church!  Tell me about the racial composition of your parish and the background of the priests in the last fifty years.  Is there a pattern?  How’d it get that way?

  25. dad29

    You just go right ahead and answer the question, Jiffy.  Point to the policies of the Catholic Church which are racist.  We’ll wait.  You SAID there are “policies” so you certainly must be able to quote them.

     

  26. jjf

    Like I said.  Explain what you see.  You couldn’t answer my question?

  27. dad29

    Back to trolling because of your vast ignorance, eh?

  28. jjf

    Aren’t you a bowl of sweetness this Sunday?  Yes, you asked for examples, and I suggested one near and dear to your heart.  Yes, I didn’t know your parish’s situation, so I asked.  So you don’t need to answer any of my questions, of course.  You can just declare me a troll and, well, because I don’t know and because I’m not a Mind Reader, ignorant.

  29. dad29

    as well as policies

    See where it says “policies,” Jiffy?

    Surely you have specific current examples

    See what the question was, Jiffy?  You’re empty-handed again, troll.

  30. Mar

    And jjf has nothing to add again.
    Kind of a running theme.
    At least Pat, Randall and penquin add something of substance.
    But jjf, maybe 1% of the time.

  31. jjf

    So how did you parish end up with so many white priests?  You want a smoking-gun policy written on vellum that says “Certain Types Need Not Apply”?

  32. dad29

    Show it to us, Jiffy.

  33. dad29

    You said there are policies, which are far different from silly inferences.

  34. Mar

    Wow, jjf showing his racism again.

  35. jjf

    You’re rant about “culture” but is it written down?  You expect a policy to be written down?

    OK, if you don’t want to talk about the racist ideas and policies in your own parish, I could just google it for you.

     

  36. Mar

    And speaking of racists jjf, why don’t ask Dad again, how much worse his life would be if he woke up Black again.

  37. dad29

    Here’s a question for Jiffy-doo:  why did Ruth Bader Ginsburg have only ONE black law-clerk out of the 100 or so she employed?

    Hint:  it’s in her writings, Jiffy.  With her, it was policy.

  38. jjf

    That’s a piece of the puzzle, Dad29.  Why are most SC clerks still white and male and from Yale and Harvard?

  39. dad29

    Don’t care, Jiffy.  You didn’t answer EITHER question I gave you.  I’m not surprised, nor disappointed.  But your Mom would be.

  40. Jason

    >But your Mom would be.

    She wasn’t disappointed last night…. Hubbah… she’s such a welsher!

  41. Jason

    >She wasn’t disappointed last night…. Hubbah… she’s such a welsher!

    Hey Lil’ John, would you consider that last comment Educational or Humorous?  I think it’s a little of both, personally.

  42. Tuerqas

    Dad29

    Surely you have specific current examples of both, right?

    Sure, I think I can name a few.  First, I hope you realize that the policies that keep poor people poor aren’t named racist policies.  On the surface, they make total sense.

    1) Requiring credit checks before hiring.  Sounds reasonable to deny a job that includes handling money to a person with a bad credit history, but what is the opportunity for that person to ever get a job (seeing how cashier/waiter type jobs are some of the more common starting positions)?  And I have read there are tens of thousands of young adults who had a parent take out a credit card in their teenager’s name and wreck their credit before they have handled a $50 dollar bill.  It is still a popular form of fraud, that has the side effect of ruining the credit of someone else for years or even decades.  And there are a lot of other ways you can go into debt, from losing your job to Covid, to having some sort of malady or injury that forces you to go past your resources etc.

    2)  Not qualifying for a loan (a car loan for instance) that would get you a job.  You can’t get a loan to get a car to get to a job.  So you can’t get the job that would allow you to qualify for the loan.  Another new job area that would be considered starting positions are Uber, Lyft, etc.  D’oh, you need a car first.  A nice complete little circle.

    3) The myriad of rules, regulations, extra costs, and red tape of starting a business in inner city locations.  Suburbs have the room, but more importantly the incentives to attract new businesses and bam, the people who can’t afford to live in the suburbs don’t get offered the job opportunities.  Add the crime (caused largely because everyone needs some sort of income and they don’t have other jobs).  No new jobs in the places that minorities live and another circle is complete.

    4) Nepotism and recommendations are an important part of some types of employment and whites get a big step ahead of minority races in these job areas.  And sure, there are types of jobs available to minorities through this practice, housekeeping for Latinos, crime for Blacks, unfortunately the recipient of those recommendations would likely have a problem parlaying them into a ‘better’ job later on.  (Nepotism here could be as simple as receiving the gift or use of the ‘clunker car’ in Dad’s or aunt Kim’s driveway.)

    We could talk about how a black man even in a suit is many times more likely to be stopped, searched and treated with suspicion than a white person in blue jeans and a pack of cigs in his rolled up sleeve.  Or how welfare, and other Government run charities are only set up to give out subsistence rather than actually designed or used to help give the people who need it most a chance to better themselves.

    These are types of practices that are called systemic racism by liberals.  Conservatives may call many of them them ‘best practices’.  Both views have some legitimacy, and because of this it is easy for politicians to divide people on the subject.  The results, however, are true hurdles placed in front of the poor that are not in front of the middle class or privileged.  These problems are systemic.

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