Assembly Republicans paused efforts to eliminate Gov. Tony Evers’ statewide mask mandate after reports surfaced that doing so could cut the state off from more than $49 million in federal food assistance for low-income families this month.
Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, R-Rochester, said the chamber postponed a vote originally scheduled for Thursday on a Senate-approved joint resolution that would effectively eliminate Evers’ emergency order and accompanying mask mandate. Vos said he still plans to pass the measure, which could reach a vote next week, but first wants to get a clear picture on any financial impact it may have on the state.
“Our job is to guarantee when we pass legislation that we know what the ramifications are,” Vos told reporters shortly before the Assembly convened. “Unfortunately, when our Senate colleagues passed it, they didn’t necessarily do the same level of due diligence. … We do not want to repeat that mistake.”
I read the LFB memo and they seem to think that the state will forgo the federal money without an emergency declaration. I’m not convinced that is correct information. It looks like several states have ended or let lapse their statewide emergency/disaster declarations and I haven’t seen any indication that the spigot from Washington has been cut off. That being said, it’s what the LFB said and Vos is right that they should pump the brakes to make sure the details are worked out.
The swipe at the Senate was uncalled for and indicates the increasing chasm between the leadership of the Senate and the Assembly.
On principle, the Republicans need to get this done. It is very simple. Either you believe in representative government or you don’t. It’s not about the masks. It is about allowing one man to decide whether 6 million Wisconsinites must wear one. And remember that Evers used the same emergency declarations to close businesses and restrict movement. IT’S NOT ABOUT THE MASKS. The Republicans have generally done a terrible job messaging this.
The Republicans also bungled the politics. By waiting until after the election instead of contesting the emergency declarations (the second one… they get a pass for not challenging the first one because everyone thought it really was an emergency), the Republicans make this look like a partisan thing. They lost the principled high ground when they weighed politics over those principles from May until January.
Cowards.
Time to elect new leadership.
They lost the principled high ground when they weighed politics over those principles from May until January.
What “Principles” do you speak about?
Had a discussion with a SW-MKE area Leggie about this back in May. He used the Vos line: ‘We already won. Nobody wears masks.’
Happy to note that he’s slowly departing the Vos/UniParty train.
BTW, both Vos and LeMaheiu are UniParty twits, but Vos has more money.
So why would any politician, in this case R’s , be opposed to protecting the safety and welfare of their constituents? Just scoring points with their base?
Masks work, a vast majority of medical professionals support wearing them, yet political games are being played with the health of our citizens. Awful, just awful.
COVID deaths in WI as of yesterday: 5811.
Again. I don’t know why this is so hard to understand. IT’S NOT ABOUT THE MASKS. It’s about arbitrary rule.
Let’s say, for example, a future Republican governor declares a state of emergency for a disease outbreak that greatly impacts the LGBTQ community and extends that state of emergency for 10 months. Under that emergency declaration, her administration orders that LGBTQ people are prohibited from sexual activity and not allowed to congregate together in public or private. And since it only impacts that community, they must wear masks and a yellow star on their clothing to identify that they might be infected.
Good? No? It’s to stop the spread of disease, right? At the very least, shouldn’t it be a public debate and a law passed through the legislature? Nah, we’ll let the governor just declare what’s best. What about their civil rights? It doesn’t matter because we are trying to protect them from the disease, right?
Whether or not we should have a mask mandate is a public policy question that is worth debating. I don’t think we should have one, but if my fellow citizens disagree and pass one through our representative government, then it would at least be legal. I would just disagree on the policy. That happens a lot.
Lately it sure seems like they all love “principled” arbitrary government as long as it’s their principles doing the governing. Rule of law takes a back seat to the fight for the right to wield the magic wand. A back of the bus seat.
Oh course the sociopath says masks work, but science and the numbers say something completely different.
But what do expect from a uneducated lying POS?
Owen: You are just going to confuse and confound Leroy, bring up actual facts. Bravo.
“COVID deaths in WI as of yesterday: 5811.”
Another lie the left loves to spread.
No, it’s not 5811 people who died just of the Chinese virus. A very small percentage of that 5811 died of just the virus. Maybe around 2% died of just the virus.
Owen:
Why not choose a less hypothetical example, say the pandemic we are in right now. If it isn’t about the “masks”, then why not? We had a former administration in DC that lied, down-played, and shirked responsibility, and said the states were responsible for dealing with it. The legislature here in WI has made no move to be pro-active in dealing with covid, yet has made every attempt to hamstring the Governor when he tries to deal with it. Folks are dying, and vos, et al want to play to play politics with the health and welfare of our citizens. If you “conservatives” are so smart, why haven’t you come up with a plan? Oh, you did, it is “poke a stick in the eye of everyone that we disagree with”. Soooo sad.
mar:
Got any proof for that ridiculous claim?
Why yes, dumbass sociopath, I do.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mkemedexamine/status/1330948226590117888
Now, go back molesting little boys.
Now, sociopath, will you apologize for lying about me, you little pervert?
Notice LeeeeeeRoy had to get his Union Times update before he could comment here?
Is LeeeeeeeeeeeeRoy smarter than Tony Evers? How about a 5th-grader?
Remember, LeeeeeRoy….you said it: The Law Is the Law.
Now go back to puddling concrete.
All that proves is that you have no proof. And that you can’t read a bar chart.
So, the pervert sociopath Le Too has nothing.
What a moron.
What an asshole.
What a pervert.
So, how did you enjoy the Russian vaccine, since you do not qualify for a regular Chinese virus vaccine?
Or maybe it was just water in a syringe?
Or maybe you just got a vaccine in your mind and you made up that you actually have a wife.
Does your made up wife know about your perverted lifestyle?
Or is your wife made out of rubber and plastic?
Should say say perverted LeRoi.
From the MKE medical examiner:
Crap, I do not like the new B&S
From the MKE medical examiner: Of the 574 COVID+ deaths investigated by our office, 15 had no known co-morbidities
https://mobile.twitter.com/mkemedexamine/status/1321156780005752833
Do, you can shut the hell up, sociopath.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
But I guess when you are uneducated, live in a septic tank and only have a dog to comfort you, though the dog hates you, you have nothing except the fact you are a uneducated lying perverted troll.
Geez mar, can you get any more ridiculous?
Why didn’t I qualify for the vaccine ? Come on , give us some more nonsense.
Why do you think it is a Russian vaccine?
Why are you always so angry?
mar:
Do you know that Milwaukee County is not the same as the State of Wisconsin?
So, the sociopath has nothing.
“Why are you always so angry?”
Maybe because you lie to me all the time and you lie about me all the time. Does that help you you Chester the Molester?
Tell us why you qualified for the vaccine before it was approved for most people over the age of 65.
But if you got the vaccine, you need to thank President Trump.
Because, my ill informed little buddy, folks here in WI that are over 65 are eligible for the vaccine provided it is available. If you want to dispute that policy, take it up with the clinic .
No point out what lie you are making up this time. Or is that all nonsense, too?
Not according to news reports. You bragged that you were getting the vaccine before it was approved.
So another lie by you.
And I have pointed out so many lies you have told. Which one do you want to deal with pervert sociopath?
Wrong again, my little uninformed friend. It must be a struggle for you to survive, being so unaware of reality.
I would like to believe but you have lied so much, you cannot believed.
Sucks to be you.
Something tells me the reasoning behind the Assembly is BS.
In Arizona, we don’t have a mask mandate statewide and no emergency orders that I can see but we still get our full compliment of food stamp money.
little guy, I really don’t care what you believe. You can believe in whatever you want; tooth fairy, Easter bunny, HCQ, whatever. So don’t fret about what you hear from me. You wouldn’t understand , anyway.
Mar,
I’m shocked you’re using Twitter as a source for information, especially after repeatedly chastising me numerous times for using Twitter as a source for information.
Isn’t that being a little hypocritical?
Gee, Mar. I thought (emphasize THOUGHT) you made a great point about presence of co-morbidities in “Covid deaths.”
How come nobody acknowledges that?
Too many facts?????
“ you made a great point about presence of co-morbidities in “Covid deaths.”
Like the age of the elderly in nursing homes??
“Isn’t that being a little hypocritical?”
Not when it is an actual news source and the source uses real facts.
And Pat, you use Twitter with dubious sources, opinion pieces, along with misleading facts and opinions.
“Like the age of the elderly in nursing homes??”
You might to ask the guy you fantasize about, Mass Murderer Andrew Cuomo.
But why does the age of the elderly in nursing homes make a difference?
Wouldn’t you consider being old and in nursing home having co-morbiditie. Generally there isn’t a need to be in a nursing home if you’re the picture of health.
“ And Pat, you use Twitter with dubious sources, opinion pieces, along with misleading facts and opinions.”
I guess that’s your opinion.
It depends on the nursing home. Some are rehab nursing homes and you people there of all ages.
And some people who are in assisted living, are in pretty good shape.
But what is your point about nursing homes?
Pat has no idea what his point may be.
Let’s help the poor little guy: Old People Die.
But being in a nursing home is NOT “co-morbidity.” Patty-Cake will have to dig a lot deeper than that.
You know: think!
But generally, Dud, the elderly in nursing homes have medical conditions that do would categorize them as having a co-morbidity.
Again, Pat, what’s your point?
You never spoke out against Mass Murderer Andrew Cuomo, so I guess you support his policies that killed over 12,000 people?
I never spoke in favor of Cuomo’s policies either. So what’s your point?
Ever hear of Alzheimer’s–or have you banned that from your vocabulary seeing Biden* is allegedly the President?
Lotsa Big A people in nursing homes. That’ NOT a co-morbidity.
My point is that you support liberal politicians and liberal policies that have killed 10s of thousands of people, if not hundreds of thousands of people.
But in your mind it’s all President Trump’s fault.
That’s my point
“ My point is that you support liberal politicians and liberal policies that have killed 10s of thousands of people, if not hundreds of thousands of people.”
Can you prove that?
Umm, yeah.
Go for it!
So, you admit Pat, that you read nothing but Twitter and other liberal media sites, liberal media and you actually believe liberal.mefia and do not have an openind.
Glad to.know that.
BTW, read about Mass Murderer Andrew Cuomo and then come back and ask your stupid question.
Marbles,
Waiting for you to prove your allegation. Until then, it’s all lies. Again.
And you are expert in lying, Lying Pat and for refusing to apologize when you get called when you are caught.
But here is 1 source:
https://nypost.com/2021/01/29/gov-cuomo-blames-politics-amid-covid-19-nursing-home-report/
And another link: https://nypost.com/2021/01/29/andrew-cuomos-appalling-nursing-home-defense/
And please explain why areas like Los Angeles, NYC, Chicago and large urban liberal cities, why they have higher death rates than in other areas of the Country?
And how many deaths related to lockdowns, like suicide, overdoses, lack of medical attention?
Science is now saying that is because of lockdowns, led by liberals.
So, now, let’s hear your apology for lying about me.
Marbles,
You alleged that I, “support liberal politicians and liberal policies that have killed 10s of thousands of people, if not hundreds of thousands of people.”
And then posted stuff that is unrelated to the allegation you made about me.
You make up a lie and then don’t back it up. I guess that’s what you Proud Boys do.
I guess that’s what uneducated lying racists like Lying Pat.
Gets their ass handed to them in a debate and then resort to name calling and lies.
What a bitch you are, Lying Pat.
And since you never given your opinion on the liberal murders of Covid patients, even though you were asked many times, your silence you support their murderous policies.
Sucks to have your ass handed to you on a platter, right, Lying Pat. But you’re used to it by now.
Weak pathetic Proud Boy Marbles can’t back up his lies.
Talks tough, but is just another weak MAGAt. A MAGAt wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped him in the face.
Actually I just showed that you, Lying Pat, are a coward, a liar and another vile human being.
Why don’t you go play with sociopath. I hear he is getting tired if playing with little boys.
Now he wants to play with someone who is near his traits: uneducated, gullible, a liar, a coward, a racist and a troll.
The only thing you showed me, and everyone else, is what a pathetic drunken schmuck you are.
Thanks for playing. But you lost a long time ago.
Le-Roi:
“Owen:
Why not choose a less hypothetical example, say the pandemic we are in right now. ”
He did, but you ignored it and I am guessing Owen is right. You don’t comprehend it. Evers had the right to declare an emergency for 60 days. That gives the Legislature time to agree and pass a law or not and let it lapse. If the Legislature had passed a law, Owen would not have liked it, but it would have been legal. THAT IS A HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE SPECIFIC TO THE CURRENT ‘CRISIS.
It is not legal for a Governor to perpetuate an emergency status and effectively take the power of the Legislature. Owen was trying to also show the possible ramifications and consequences of this current hostile takeover of power by Evers. And we all already know how you would react to a Governor or President doing something similar to what Owen outlined. You have been all about legal and Democratic processes applying to Republicans, but yea for arbitrary rule and throw out the constitution if a Democrat leads us.
Your lack of understanding or regard for our system of Government stops and starts with your ideology,…Heh, just like the white southerners in the 1790s.
T:
And once again we can agree to disagree.
Isn’t America great !
Except, sociopath, you think America sucks.
>And once again we can agree to disagree.
Hahaha, what a turd you are Leroy. Every post you make just reaffirms what a trolling idiot you are.
mar:
No little guy, I don’t, and never have. While we all suffered through fours years of mismanagement and lies by the orange haired wanna-be dictator, I alway had faith in my fellow citizens to vote him out. Unfortunately it took the deaths of almost 400000 of our fellow citizens to show how incompetent he was.
So do you feel better, making stuff up about me?
How so, j? T and I disagree. What don’t you understand about that?
Sociopath, you support Black Lives Matter and Antifa. You support dictatorship, you support restricting citizens from traveling, you support rioters and looters, you do not support the rule of law and you support science that only fits your narritive.
You did not support anything President Trump did or say and you do not support anything Senile Joe has done.
I guess we have to agree to disagree that you are a vile hateful anti-Anerican.
>How so, j? T and I disagree. What don’t you understand about that?
Seems like you’re the one with an inability to understand, not me. Keep on trolling.
>Unfortunately it took the deaths of almost 400000 of our fellow citizens to show how incompetent he was.
And many know that if President Trump hadn’t been such an effective leader the actual number is far lower than if Hillary had been in office. You don’t understand that either dummy.
If it were not for incompetent power hungry liberals, that number number, 400,000 deaths, would be much lower.
And yet, the sociopath is such a vile and hateful person that he cannot bring himself to appreciate that President Trump helped make available the vaccine that the sociopath supposedly took.
“If it were not for incompetent power hungry liberals, that number number, 400,000 deaths, would be much lower.”
And how do you know that, Mr. Highly Educated?? Any iota of proof, or just just pulling stuff out of thin air?
BTW, mar, I support none of these: “you support Black Lives Matter and Antifa. You support dictatorship, you support restricting citizens from traveling, you support rioters and looters”, but I do support law and order, and Joe Biden.
And there is nothing you can do to prove otherwise.
j:
“And many know that if President Trump hadn’t been such an effective leader the actual number is far lower than if Hillary had been in office. You don’t understand that either dummy.”
“Many” ? As in you, trump and mar? Many more realize what you said is nonsense, bordering on insanity.
“And there is nothing you can do to prove otherwise.”
Well, actually, I can.
This is the first time you said you are against Antifa and BLM, so I don’t believe you.
You support mask mandates ordered by 1 person and other Chinese virus restrictions that were ordered by 1 person, which is a dictatorship.
You never disowned rioters and looters until maybe now, which tells me again, you are lying.
Tell me what policies of Joe Biden do you support? Firing thousands of union workers, letting males play girl sports? You support that?
“Any iota of proof, or just just pulling stuff out of thin air?”
Start with liberal governors putting Chinese virus patients in nursing homes. That killed many thousands of people.
So, you are wrong again, sociopath.
>“Many” ? As in you, trump and mar? Many more realize what you said is nonsense, bordering on insanity.
I guess we’ll agree to disagree. Many realize everything you post here is nonsense, bordering on insanity. Great country, no?
>Start with liberal governors putting Chinese virus patients in nursing homes. That killed many thousands of people.
Oh, don’t forget the investigations into the incorrect numbers being reported from those same nursing homes…
My guess is that Le Roi, the perverted sociopath, supports transgendered males running in female track races, play in girl basketball games, play in girl softball games and play in girls volleyball games.
But then you have to understand that the sociopath is probably into transgendered male juveniles. The sociopath’s nickname in his neighhood is Herbert.