This is where the anti-police riots and rhetoric of 2020 have led us.
While the figures include a few officers killed by accidental gunfire, the number of ambushes in which police were injured or killed in surprise attacks with little chance to defend themselves has soared since 2020 and accounts for nearly half the officers killed this year.
Such an attack apparently struck Wednesday in Bristol, Connecticut, where the state police said Bristol Police Sgt. Dustin Demonte and Officer Alex Hamzy were killed and Officer Alec Iurato was wounded when they responded to a 911 call that appears to have been “a deliberate act to lure law enforcement to the scene.”
At least 11 police officers were shot around the country this week, including one fatally in Greenville, Mississippi, and another in Las Vegas.
This is another of the multi-faceted attack on Right Order which is the first law of the universe. It’s of a piece with the tranny thing and gay “marriage,” not to mention abortion.
We live in interesting times, as the Chinese would say.
Another large factor (that the article does not mention) is the unwillingness of police to police themselves. Just like the Catholic Church allowed pedophile priests to continue preying unabated, Police forces allowed their violent members to continue serving despite many complaints and incidents of misconduct.
And when there are attempts to put corrective or preventative measures into place, the police have a long history of fighting against them.
This has significantly contributed to the very loss of community support they bemoan.
Sorta like the educators who allowed 265 of their ilk to molest children this year alone, eh?
In order for it to be a relevant example,
*the educators would have to be known as molesters by other educators, principals and upper administration (like other priests, bishops, cardinals, etc. knew)
*those others chose not to report the molesters (like other priests, bishops, cardinals, etc. did)
*Those others moved them around quietly (like bishops, cardinals, etc. did)
So if you have an education example this year, that matches these criteria, please share as a relevant example.
So Dad29’s example is irrelevant? I think I see. If the example is covered by the liberal ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ slogan, then it is not relevant, is that correct? Ignorance is bliss, so to speak. So long as liberals can claim ignorance on what other liberals do, liberal law breaking doesn’t count? Cool, cool, cool….I am sure the 265 victims of teacher abuse over the last year and their parents versus children of priest abuse totally agree with that distinction too.
Pflug does have me on one fact-error. It’s 269, not 265.
No you don’t see. But let me try and help.
Every organization has bad apples, so the true test of a group is what do they do when they find out about those bad apples. In the case of police, and in the case of the Catholic church, they did nothing. Well they really did worse than nothing, because at least in the case of priests, they quietly moved them to another parish or location where they continued to predate.
No doubt there are Educators who are doing the same thing, but what is happening when other educators, their supervisors and such find out? If it is swept under the rug and they are allowed to continue to predate, then it’s exactly the same case as what the police and the Catholic Church did. If not, it isn’t.
As another example, consider the case of Republican lawmaker Bill Kramer in the state of Wisconsin. Kramer was assaulting women, and several Republicans (including Ron Johnson) found out about it and did nothing. Thus this would be the same case as Police doing nothing in the Catholic Church doing nothing.
https://archive.jsonline.com/news/ron-johnson-did-not-tell-police-of-assault-allegations-three-years-ago-b99240536z1-253954591.html/
Don’t look at me as a defender of those Bishops, Cardinals, and priests. They are scum and many of them have earned a reward which is not………..pleasant.
Note this: the incidents of ephebophilia by priests usually were spread out over 10-20 years. IOW, Father Touchy-Feely had been diddling boys from 1955-1975 (and yes, it was almost all homosexual predation.) Then Father Touchy-Feely’s roof caved in. We all heard about it in a 5-year burst of information.
But what we see in the teachers’ case is that those 269 cases are JUST THIS YEAR (or this- and last-year.)
Did others know? Probably. Were they principals, staffers, other teachers? Probably. Did they know with absolute certainty–enough to file a complaint? Maybe. Maybe not.
None of this is a surprise. There has been “sin” since Adam; if anything, we should learn that there is really no “progress” in the human condition.
But Democrats sell “progress” anyway, knowing that Barnum was right.
Randall, as a former teacher, I have seen so much crap from teachers. From hitting students, to stealing, to sexual assault.
Yes, most of the times know the problem teacher and then they pawn them off to another school.
Or they ignore it.
Usually, when a teacher is caught, it’s not the administration catching the teacher, it’s the student or their parents that turn them.
I’ve seen it first hand.
Randall,
I understood what you were saying the first time, but I think you missed my point. Initially you called your comment a ‘large factor’. Since then you have tried to make your single factor the only set of characteristics to be used in the thread. I disapprove of your attempt to change the post and thread to your post and thread. You did not post it. Besides that, I disagree even with your exclusion of Dad29’s example. History is full of the teacher’s unions protecting its teachers from disgusting acts and liberal organizations are full of see no evil people unless the perpetrator is a conservative. Most organizations work hard to protect their members from even the rule of law, that is why they have lawyer teams. I did not ask you to go dredge up the thousands of examples of police protecting police that we both know exist and let’s face it, no number of examples are ever going to satisfy a liberal of bad teachers if they were provided by a conservative. For you to say that teachers and their associations don’t protect teachers is ludicrous, yet you persist, and all that is beside the point.
Then your next example was a of a Republican doing something wrong and other Republicans hiding it. You could have chosen pretty much any Democrat for hidden crimes as well, they are virtually all immune to penalty unless they show their penis to the world via text, and even then they just resign, wait a few years and go back into politics. You could not have picked a bigger cesspool of above the law criminals than politicians, yet I bet you still believe that Republicans as a whole are horrible criminals, but Democrats as a whole are good people, but that is still beside the point.
You have no right in my eyes, at least, to get to pick the rules of commentary on any thread here, and here is my point: The post was about criminals ambushing police. You are pretending that it is probably good citizens sick of police brutality rather than criminals with killers on their payroll doing it. There is not a bigger crock of shit comment on Boots and Sabers this year. These ambush perpetrators are killer drug dealing criminals seeking reprisal, not fledgling little liberal angels with swords of social justice, and for you to pretend that it is because of past police brutality and then try to pigeonhole it to that is quite frankly, beyond the pale. I usually think more highly of you.
I usually think more highly of you.
Why?
>There is not a bigger crock of shit comment on Boots and Sabers this year.
Heh. Spit coffee on the damned keyboard.
Of course I don’t get to decide to pick the rules of commentary. However I do get to object to people trying to use an example that’s not germane to my point. Sure the unions protect teachers, but how many have done it when teachers have been predating for years, like the Catholic Church did it with priests and police did it with other policemen? I don’t understand why you say no number of examples are going to satisfy a liberal of bad teachers when I openly admitted there are bad teachers. And I do not need you to provide me examples. However I would be interested in examples of them being allowed to predate for years.
Yes my examples were Republican, because every example on this blog, with a few exceptions, are about Democrats/liberals. The blog, and the vast majority of commenters, ignore the wrongdoings of Republicans, so I point them out. It’s not surprising given the nature of the blog, and I completely expect the objections and name calling that I get when I point them out. It comes with being a minority voice on a blog. SO I take your “crock” comment in that vein….yet another objection to me pointing out Republicans are not as white as snow.
You can believe what you want to about me thinking Democrats are good people, but know that I equally believe most posters on here think Republicans never do anything wrong.
I never said these were good people, but I also believe they have a valid fear of police given what has happened in the past.
because every example on this blog, with a few exceptions, are about Democrats/liberals.
IT’S JUST NOT FAAAAAAAAAIIIIRRRRRRR!!!! screeched he, as he stomped his widdle feets.
He then returned to reading the Madison CapTimes which was neatly placed on the bar behind which he slaved for The Man. The CapTimes and the Milwaukee Pravda………..exemplary samples of integrity and fair-handed fiction-writing.
By the way…..
“…A principal and three staff members at Plymouth Center School were charged with failure to report abuse, neglect or injury of a child or imminent risk of serious harm to a child after students allegedly complained about misconduct by Eschert and nothing was done.
Eschert was arrested in January on five counts of risk of injury to a child and two counts of fourth-degree sexual assault…”
(snip)
“…the U.S. Department of Education released a report in June titled “Study of State Policies to Prohibit Aiding and Abetting Sexual Misconduct in Schools,” which analyzed state policies prohibiting “passing the trash,” or allowing suspected sexual abusers to quietly leave their jobs to possibly offend again in a different school district.
A bipartisan provision of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA), which was originally proposed by Republican Sen. Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania, requires all states receiving federal education funding to enact laws prohibiting the practice of “passing the trash.”
The Education Department’s report, however, found that laws against the practice are varied across the states, and that while all states require prospective employers to conduct criminal background checks on educators, and most states — 46 — require fingerprinting, only 19 states require employers to request information from an applicant’s current and former employers. ”
Oh, yes, Pflugg………..they DID know, just as Mar said.
You can find that here: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/at-least-269-k-12-educators-arrested-child-sex-crimes-first-9-months-year
So you openly admit that there are and have long been bad teachers, You admit that unions protect their teachers, so you just need covered up stories to call it germane to your point? How many do you need? I can find half a dozen in the NY teachers room of suspended with pay teachers alone. They have to go to a lounge and do nothing because they are not allowed near students anymore, but to get paid they have to go to a room and do nothing. Look that one up when you find a little time. Dad29 just gave you one above, so how many more?
>You can believe what you want to about me thinking Democrats are good people, but know that I equally believe most posters on here think Republicans never do anything wrong.
I think most Republicans are just as corrupt, but I notice you did not say the same thing. You basically just said you believe that Democrats never do anything wrong. I rest my case on liberals never conceding a point. Even when shown many examples you will still believe that police, priests and Republicans are generally evil and liberals/Democrats are generally good honest people.
>I never said these were good people, but I also believe they have a valid fear of police given what has happened in the past.
Yes, but you never said they bad either. They have a valid fear of police because they are consistently at risk with gun fights with the police. You have been presenting them as people of the community who have stopped supporting the police. And you haven’t stopped when it was pointed out to you. You still seem to be hanging on to the ‘police deserve being drawn into deadly ambushes because they were mean to people in the past’. I can’t even express (to you, it seems) how far out of touch I consider someone who tries to paint the assassination ambushers of police as concerned citizens that are angry with past police treatment. It is your commentary that has been completely non-germane to the post.
>It’s not surprising given the nature of the blog, and I completely expect the objections and name calling that I get when I point them out. It comes with being a minority voice on a blog. SO I take your “crock” comment in that vein….yet another objection to me pointing out Republicans are not as white as snow.
It has nothing to do with you being a minority voice on this blog. It has nothing to do with you pointing out only Republicans, priests and police as the bad people. My ‘crock comment’ was only to do with you going so far out of bounds from the post that it needed to be pointed out. If you still think that concerned liberal activists have been the ones ambushing and killing police, I can only finish with: I am sad you can vote.
******So you openly admit that there are and have long been bad teachers,******
Yes. If you had actually read my posts you would have seen me say “Every organization has bad apples.” Organizations would include teachers/teachers unions and the Democrat Party, right?
****You basically just said you believe that Democrats never do anything wrong***
No, read it again. I said my belief of you is the same as your belief of me. I never said what I actually believe. Once again you seem to be reading my post for what you want to think (or want) to be there, not what is actually there.
And I ask for examples because, by and large, I find Republicans make claims but can’t back them up. So if you and dad29 had backup, why not just post it right away? instead you obfuscated and attacked.
In the end, it seems you and others have made up your minds that I’m some caricature of the liberal that believes liberals never do anything wrong, and so you start immediately attacking me for being that rather than reading my posts carefully before responding. And that makes me sad you can vote.
Oh if only we could all read, right? Read your first sentences in your latest comment again. Do you see it? You agreed that I had interpreted your comment correctly that there are bad apples, but then you accuse me of not reading your comments (you are not the poster, dude) in the same sentence? Huh? How would I have known that you admit there are bad apples if I did not read and understand your comments? Yet there you are attacking me as if I was the one who could not comprehend English.
Next one, your initial comment:
>You can believe what you want to about me thinking Democrats are good people, but know that I equally believe most posters on here think Republicans never do anything wrong.
If you ‘equally believe’ that most commenters here think Republicans do no wrong, then you are indeed saying that you believe that most democrats do no wrong. Your words, not mine. I did not know what you say you believed until you told me right there. So i would say no, YOU read it again. Are you recanting and now saying that Dems and libs are regular people too? I did not put words in your mouth, I just interpreted what you wrote.
I love how libs always do this too: “I never said what I actually believe.” Great way to duck out of any conversation. Oh and no, you did not say your belief was the same as mine, you said “most ‘posters’ here”. I have always been outspoken in my Libertarian beliefs precisely because both of our parties in the US are completely broken. You have spoken only ill of conservatives and conservative organizations excepting the occasional ‘bad apple’ liberal. I regularly speak ill of both with few exceptions. Don’t compare yourself to me without reading a bit of my commentary.
> So if you and dad29 had backup, why not just post it right away? instead you obfuscated and attacked.
First make up your damn mind, did you really want examples or not (provided by Dad above that you ignored)? Second, you attacked, not us. Read the order of commentary above before you go playing the little dress wearing victim in the corner. I am making up my mind that you are a lib caricature because you write the same exact commentary as other liberals. One example was what I alluded to earlier, you already attacked priests and the police, you could have shown some balance and gained some cred by using a Dem politician, but no, it is you who attack, attack, attack all things not liberal, defend everything liberal and then play a victim card and deny everything by saying you never actually told us what you believe. Actually I believe most libs when they say that though. They generally don’t seem to know what they believe so they can never actually articulate a position.
*** I just interpreted what you wrote. *****
Nowhere in that sentence do I say what I believe, but somehow you think it says what I believe? I just can’t see where you’re getting your interpretations.
I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote, but I doubt I’m gonna convince you of it. I think you are reading things in my posts that aren’t there, you think you are interpreting them correctly.
I will say that I don’t feel a need to use Democrats as an example, because they are used all over the board in the articles, Owen’s comments and the posters’ comments. Republican examples are few and far between.
You will probably think this is some sort of liberal tactic, but I recognize the point where a stalemate has been reached and further discussion is fruitless. We each have our opinions of each other and I doubt anything I say will change the one you have of me, and I doubt anything you have to say will change the one I have of you. So I will have nothing further to say on this post. Interpret that as you will
Randall, I provided first hand experience so don’t say we didn’t give you examples.
>So I will have nothing further to say on this post.
NEXT!
That’s cool, I always hope, but never expect more from liberals always using the same phrase book as the last liberal commenter. You don’t always, you know.
>I disagree with pretty much everything you wrote, but I doubt I’m gonna convince you of it.
I am convinced that you actually disagree with most everything I wrote, so success story for you there, right? I have no idea what your opinion of me is, you never said. I have said before and still think you are usually one of the more respectable liberal commenters here. That’s why you basically saying that the police deserve to be ambushed because of past transgressions needed to be addressed. Seldom are you so far out into left field that I can’t see you.