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2055, 07 Jan 24

Move Away from ACT and SAT Having Negative Consequences

Yet another COVID response failure. But here’s the dirty little secret… some colleges don’t care if students will be successful or not as long as the check clears.

After the COVID pandemic made it difficult for high school students to take the SAT and ACT, dozens of selective colleges dropped their requirement that applicants do so. Colleges described the move as temporary, but nearly all have since stuck to a test-optional policy. It reflects a backlash against standardized tests that began long before the pandemic, and many people have hailed the change as a victory for equity in higher education.

 

Now, though, a growing number of experts and university administrators wonder whether the switch has been a mistake. Research has increasingly shown that standardized test scores contain real information, helping to predict college grades, chances of graduation and post-college success. Test scores are more reliable than high school grades, partly because of grade inflation in recent years.

 

Without test scores, admissions officers sometimes have a hard time distinguishing between applicants who are likely to do well at elite colleges and those who are likely to struggle. Researchers who have studied the issue say that test scores can be particularly helpful in identifying lower-income students and underrepresented minorities who will thrive. These students do not score as high on average as students from affluent communities or white and Asian students. But a solid score for a student from a less privileged background is often a sign of enormous potential.

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2055, 07 January 2024

10 Comments

  1. Tuerqas

    Remember the part about clearing checks? Bad students will take longer to graduate…
    Heh, and you thought you might be cynical.
    And it’s okay about putting underprivileged students under a mountain of debt, Dems will get all the debt wiped away from them at some point.

  2. Jason

    >Dems will get all the debt wiped away from them at some point.

    Dems will farm votes with promises of wiping away debt… Without actually being able to do so.

  3. Tuerqas

    I think you underestimate the power of being a Democrat with sheep that support your every decision. Who is going to stop them, the liberal courts?

  4. Merlin

    >Dems will farm votes with promises of wiping away debt… Without actually being able to do so.

    I still have the opinion that Biden’s 2020 epic whopper of a lie to forgive student loan debt earned him votes from people who would have never, ever done so otherwise. Supposedly educated people. It wasn’t the old school bribe of a ride to the polls, or a gift card, or a carton of cigarettes. The possible personal benefit reward was just so astronomically high, and the risk of discovery of being duped so negligible that people took the gamble. Factor in not only the debt holders themselves, but the possibility of sympathetic spouses, siblings, parents, inlaws, close friends, etc. and you get some bigly numbers. People gave up their vote for that illusion of debt relief and have steadfastly lied about having done so ever since. Those people will never admit that they got played. Let’s hope they never get duped like that again.

  5. jonnyv

    Merlin, the DOE says it has wiped away 130 Billion dollars in student debt. Most of it due to the SAVE plan. While Biden hasn’t been able to do completely what he promised, he actually has made some good progress on this. And apparently more relief to come for borrowers of less than 12K who have been paying for 10 years.

  6. dad29

    They “wiped away” $130Bn.

    From the taxpayers, of course, who will have to make up the difference.

    Further, all it does is lower the REQUIRED PAYMENTS based on a new income formula. It does not “wipe out” debt.

    Finally, any number Biden gives you is verrrrrry suspicious. $130Bn may actually be $13Bn.

  7. jonnyv

    Dad29. It does lower the required payments, but my understanding is that it also changes the discharging of the loan after so long.

    Personally, I don’t care. I paid off my loans and the gov’t wastes enough money on things that I don’t feel are necessary, at least this one will go back into the pockets of Americans, vs other spending.

  8. Tuerqas

    >Personally, I don’t care. I paid off my loans and the gov’t wastes enough money on things that I don’t feel are necessary, at least this one will go back into the pockets of Americans, vs other spending.

    Sure, into the pockets of people who voted for him and out of the pockets of people who did not, for the most part. Why would a liberal care?
    Self interest is a big part of everyone’s decisions, the difference is that conservatives acknowledge it while liberals deny it pretending they, and by extension the Government they voted for, are being altruistic and helpful to all.
    The bottom line is that liberal Government is redistributing wealth, they are not paying money back out to the parties that put it in. The difference there is extreme, but you treat it as being the same and congratulate yourself for thinking it.

  9. dad29

    THIS^^^^^

  10. dad29

    He’s still congratulating himself about EV’s, too.

    Didja know that 99++% of Teslas are still on the road?

    That’s because they have not gotten home.

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