Clearly, Iran has a favorite in this race and a vested interest in the outcome.
Iran was behind the recent hack of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign, US intelligence officials have confirmed.
The FBI and other federal agencies said in a joint statement that Iran had chosen to interfere in the US election “to stoke discord and undermine confidence in our democratic institutions”.
The Trump campaign pointed the finger at Iran on 10 August for hacking its internal messages. Iranian officials denied it.
Sources familiar with the investigation told the BBC’s US partner, CBS News, that they suspect Iranian hackers also targeted the campaign of Democratic presidential contender Kamala Harris.
Notice how the story is written… we confirm that Iran hacked Trump, but to give the appearance that Iran hates Harris just as much, we get unnamed “sources familiar with the investigation” saying that they “suspect” that Iran “targeted” Harris too. There is no evidence or named sources to back it up, but the FBI and media have to run cover for Harris.
The same media covering by NOT posting the oppo reports they got? Imagine if that had happened and the media didn’t post them from the democrats, you would be screaming collusion even more. No win.
Can we trust National Security to a team who can’t keep their campaign secured? lol
Any team that trusts Roger Stone with information is bad enough. I bet his email didn’t have 2 Factor Authentication security on it.
Before y’all go off the deep end……
Since when do we trust the FBI’s ‘proclamations’ on anything? “FBI says…..XX” no longer means anything.
There are a few people who may well benefit from an “Iran is THE Enemy” narrative, and it is not necessarily the vast majority of the US citizenry.
>Imagine if that had happened and the media didn’t post them from the democrats, you would be screaming collusion even more. No win.
>Can we trust National Security to a team who can’t keep their campaign secured? lol
In reverse order:
Wasn’t it Hillary’s campaign that was hacked in 2016 and Trump was blamed for colluding with Russia for it? lol
There is never a win when a Rep talks to a lib, it is part of the programming. Even if you agreed 100% with Owen’s entire post, it was a ‘no win’ from the get go.
The Dems and Reps do have different ways of screwing us and themselves, ‘screaming collusion’ is a Dem SOP not really a Rep procedure. Their audience does not get excited about something like that. Russia as a big bad guy just isn’t that scary to them and Reps already believe there was serious involvement between the Bidens and Russia, but I have heard little about treason or collusion through the conservative sources I read or listen to. China is the Rep boogeyman. Threaten a Rep’s pocketbook if you want to scare a Rep.
So I can only ‘imagine’ your scenario above as I would imagine Communism as a system of Government. It is completely unworkable except in small isolated communities. I know Owen keeps misusing it to describe KH because somehow the USSR was called Communist rather than Socialist so people use the term, but it doesn’t really fit and has not, at least since Lenin died. Communism has no national Government framework at all, while Socialism counts on a huge autocratic Government to redistribute and control, supposedly to create a ‘better’ society with no or very limited creativity or individual incentive to do more than the minimum work…but a lot of ‘equality’ at least for the masses. The footnote about an attempt on the Dem campaign was for exactly what Owen said it was. Iran does have an interest in getting Dems re-elected, they are fellow Jew hating HAMAS supporters now, in addition to being weak internationally. It makes no sense to attack their campaign too. It is part of your programming, ‘LAUGH AT REPS NOW, THEY HAVE BEEN HACKED! Just like they are taking credit for expiring drug patents, they are using neuro-linguistic programming on you to back-handedly take credit for not being hacked, even though they were not targeted or at least not by the same group. That is just one of literally millions of additions or omissions to continually prop the desired belief that all Reps are incompetent lying hacks while Dems have all the answers. And when a Dem is wrong it was definitely not just someone else’s fault it was the enemy’s fault. The Dem campaign was hacked by Russia? Try Trump for treason!!! The Rep campaign was hacked by Iran? lol, didn’t happen to us…EVEN THOUGH THEY TRIED!!!
Those were lib media reactions to the essentially the same event and were adopted by you and all lib media news source followers. Lib news is never about presenting facts and let blame land where it may, it is about presenting enough facts and opinion to spin a specific narrative. You will say that Rep news sources are the same, but they aren’t. They have their banner sources that are the same (like Fox), but I can read 5 different sources and get 4 or 5 varying accounts usually stemming from about the same facts. Go to 5 different liberal news sites and you often get not only the same story (very often word for word) with the same, but not necessarily all the facts that the varied Con sites gave. That is Pravda. If you have exactly the same narrative from virtually all of the news sites that favor liberalism and even eyewitnesses or experts on the subject are called liars if their facts don’t support that narrative, you are being controlled, pure and simple.
And yeah, the FBI and secret service have pretty much lost credibility for all the people who have opened their eyes and can clearly see the old man behind the curtain named Oz. If Biden had been shot at and the secret service had been shown to have left a perfect platform for killing him unobserved, the hue and cry of Dems would have been epic and much looting, rioting, er, I mean demonstrating would have been going on these last several weeks in lib cities across the country. Another clear difference in Party SOP. The way Dems have used the justice department as a weapon over the last decade, you can bet that a conservative SS agent or 5 would be in jail right now and the book thrown would be large and heavy.
-Can we trust National Security to a team who can’t keep their campaign secured? lol
We untrusted national security to a Secretary of State who grossly mishandled classified data and kept an unsecured server in her spare bathroom closet. And to a senator/veep who kept all manner of classified documents stacked in boxes in his garage, unsecured and readily available to his influence peddling, crackhead son. There has been no end to the excuses made for those two twats simply because they wear the nitwit brand. Pot, kettle, black.
lol
T. I totally disagree that had Biden been shot, that anyone would have been rioting. There would have been COUNTLESS inquiries, but the assassination of a sitting president by some random kid wouldn’t have been a riot incident IMO. More heads would have rolled for certain.
And by all accounts, I will laugh at any politician who gets their system hacked. But it wasn’t even the campaign that got hacked, it was Roger Stone’s personal email. Again, why ANYONE trusts that yahoo is another story and says more about the campaign than the hack to me. Old people are gonna be old and get hacked. The oppo files were sent to someone’s personal email? How dumb. I think Trump has run a good campaign up until the KH announcement, and now he has again veered off course and straying from the message he should be focused on to beat her. Many of these campaigns have moved away from email and to secure messaging apps like Secret.
It was Russia that hacked the Clinton campaign. And released the files to wikileaks. And with as close as that election was, you could argue that it was a reason why Clinton lost (as well as ignoring the upper Midwest at the end).
We don’t know Iran’s reasoning; it is all speculative as it seems they created fake news sites directed at both sides of the political spectrum. I would believe the FBI when they said that there were attempts into all the campaigns. My guess is that there are probably about a half dozen countries trying to do the same for various reasons. Everyone’s head is in the sand if they don’t think China and Russia are attempting to get into those accounts as well.
Merlin, you think we should trust the guy who had boxes of classified information in his crapper? And then REFUSED to return it when asked by the Feds, and repeatedly lied about it? The guy who apparently shared some top secret info with people at the golf course… ON TAPE? Another reason why I will happily vote this guy out given the chance. THIS is the crime that I thought had and still has the best evidence to bust him on.
In general I think we classify too much stuff, and we have too many people that have access TO that classified info. It creates issues in the system. There are guys who are sharing classified weapons documents in chat rooms to prove points about video games. It is insane.
It was Russia that hacked the Clinton campaign. And released the files to wikileaks.
That’s funny, as Assange–the FOUNDER of WIkiLeaks, says it was NOT Russia.
You have a better authority, perhaps? Cite it!!
…boxes of classified information in his crapper
As C-inC, Trump–unlike a mere VP or Senator–had the authority to de-classify whatever he wanted to. And as we all know, the “Classified” slip-sheets were placed on the documents by the FBI for the photo-op at M-a-L.
Odd that the “ON TAPE” “share” of info came up exactly once. Here’s ABC’s report:
ABC News has obtained an audio recording of former President Donald Trump appearing to acknowledge he held onto a sensitive military document after leaving office
“Appearing to acknowledge that he held on to a ….document.” You can read English, right? Did he discuss the contents?
On the recording, Trump is heard attacking Joint Chiefs of Staff General Mark Milley and referencing a document that Trump claimed Milley had compiled.
Same ABC report:
“Well, with Milley — uh, let me see that, I’ll show you an example,” Trump says on the recording. “He said that I wanted to attack Iran. Isn’t that amazing? I have a big pile of papers, this thing just came up. Look. This was him. They presented me this — this is off the record, but — they presented me this. This was him. This was the Defense Department and him. We looked at some — this was him. This wasn’t done by me, this was him. All sorts of stuff — pages long, look.”
Exactly where does it say that Trump read from the report, OR that he allowed others to read it?
We’ll wait.
Get your facts in line, JonnyV. You’re sounding like Kammy, or Crazy Joe.
>T. I totally disagree that had Biden been shot, that anyone would have been rioting.
Good for you, but you are wrong. Dems have been scratching in the mud for months now looking for that riotable act tp promote. With riot-worthy incidences, their elections go pretty well, without them they lose way more often than not. Politicians go with what works, not what is right or wrong. A good murder of Biden before he stepped down would have been the dream scenario for Dem strategists
>It was Russia that hacked the Clinton campaign. And released the files to wikileaks. And with as close as that election was, you could argue that it was a reason why Clinton lost (as well as ignoring the upper Midwest at the end).
>And by all accounts, I will laugh at any politician who gets their system hacked.
Where is the laughter at Clinton and her campaign? Where is the mention of her and her staff’s stupidity and incompetence? I must have missed it. Plenty of lib media quotes on Trump and his people, but low in fact or ‘equal’ treatment for Dems, as always. ALWAYS, not just most of the time, you never show equal criticism for equal acts of stupidity by Dems or Reps. Throw away your ill-fitting suit of impartiality, you have none. Your impartial ‘analysis’ of Clinton’s hackery showed a lot more sympathy than mockery. Oh, unless you believe there is no difference between mocking laughter and sympathy laughter?
>We don’t know Iran’s reasoning;
Really? But you knew Russia’s reasoning 8 years ago and 8 years later even though there is evidence it was never Russia in the first place? No, you know the lib version of events, damn the lack of facts involved or that come to light. One might say it was obvious that Clinton’s campaign getting hacked was to hurt her campaign, but true to form, there was no laughter or mockery from the left, only outrage and blame of others, specifically Trump, the enemy. As the Trump campaign was hacked one could assume the same reasoning as elementary, but it is true that we don’t know for certain. All we know is that Iran, HAMAS and Democrats are all working for the same thing, the destruction of Israel. However, all you have to do is deny for a week and this news cycle will be gone, as raging for months about one event before an election just isn’t done by Reps. You believe the FBI, already proven to be partisan, I won’t again. And you won’t either as soon as enough of them are replaced with Rep partisans and the shoe is on the other foot. I know if I won the election I would replace all SS agents who had shown any lib partisanship and I would work on the FBI in the same manner if I was the target of assassination during an election and nothing was done about the almost obvious collusion among the SS agents and an attempted murderer. And if there were truly no collusion, then I would still fire them all for gross negligence and a general lack of ability.
You are not even sounding plausible on this post so far.
The Clinton hacks were confirmed to be done by a crew called Fancy Bear & Cozy Bear. They were BELIEVED to be 2 different arms of Russian intelligence. They primarily focused on Eastern European countries… strangely all aligning with Russian adversaries and interests. Now you can argue that it wasn’t directly the Russian gov’t that was the culprit, that is fine (but most likely wrong). But that is who WikiLeaks got the info from by all accounts. And there is enough information that ties both the “Bear” groups to being state sponsored. I don’t know if they are 100%, but if it walks like a duck and every expert in the field says it is a duck…
All Assange has said is that it wasn’t the Russian Gov’t that gave him the emails. Didn’t deny it was the Bear crew who were more or less were known to work on behalf of the Russian Gov’t, or even a possible additional intermediate 3rd party. A nice way around it. It also wasn’t the US & Ukraine Gov’t that sabotaged the Nordstream Pipeline… WINK WINK. FWIW. I am a proponent of Assange, Wikileaks, AND Snowden. But that doesn’t change the truth.
T. I didn’t know I had to bring up EVERY incident of the past 20 years when talking about things that are happening NOW. The Clinton hack was technologically WORSE because they hacked the actual staff of the campaign. Not just a Sideshow Bob-esque character like Stone. The staff that was supposedly VERY aware of digital security at the time and DID have 2 FA enabled, and they STILL got hacked. So yes, haha on them too. I am sure the Trump campaign has their digital security on lock down INSIDE the actual campaign. But when you deal with morons, moronic things happen. I think that our posts are long enough that I don’t need to bring up every similar incident from the past 20 years. And if the KH campaign gets hacked, I will laugh at them as well.
Its possible Iran is trying to tip the election one way. Just like it was probably that Russia was doing the same thing 8 years ago. Just like the US probably does in dozens of other countries. It is world affairs. Russia may have been pro Trump? They might have just been Anti-Hillary and preferred Bernie? No saying for sure. But they were definitely trying to sway the election in SOME direction.
We are getting very strangely right into my line of work with digital security. How fun.
And even if you keep repeating the same idiotic thing that the Dems are hoping for the destruction of Israel, it doesn’t make it true. It is really just an ignorant statement. There are a lot of people who are sympathetic to the plights of the Palestinians. And the Dems are going to milk that for all it is worth, as they SHOULD to win the election. The Dems and Reps want to keep that AIPAC money FLOWING into their coffers though. And if you honestly think that “Well, that’s what Palestine get for having HAMAS. I am ok with all the children dying.” That makes someone a gross and disgusting individual. I am personally also sympathetic to Israel because I don’t know what the right answer is for them, they have a right to defend themself.
I personally think they are not handling the situation well and are a little too nonchalant to the civilian casualties. But they are LOSING the public relations battle, not just here, but around the world. And like it or not, that matters. And them shutting down dissident media orgs inside their country sure doesn’t seem to strike me as open minded or free at all either.
We’re all absolutely certain that Hildebeeste had 2FA security on her bathtub server at Chappaqua, so that NO ONE–not the Chinese, not the Russkies, not the Iranians, not the Israelis…….NO ONE could possibly backdoor every. damn. thing. she wrote or recieved.
Yup. Absolutely confident.
>I don’t know if they are 100%, but if it walks like a duck and every expert in the field says it is a duck…
I don’t believe you should use that line with the rest of your comment…you cannot often see a duck in a flock of ducks in a political light, unless it is a lefty duck.
>T. I didn’t know I had to bring up EVERY incident of the past 20 years when talking about things that are happening NOW.
What the hell are you talking about? I brought up 1 incident 8 years ago because it was a direct comparison and you have clearly shown your bias concerning it. Is that what you are referring to? Every example over 20 years is equal to one exactly comparable example 8 years ago? Given the history with libs and numbers, I guess I would believe it.
>And if the KH campaign gets hacked, I will laugh at them as well.
Bet you won’t, at least no place else but here. And if it matches the above, we’ll get a pre-recorded apologist and excuse making rant just prior to it, followed by a quick ‘Ha,ha’. Nothing about Dem morons, or untrustworthiness I’d bet. See, you will say that no politicians are trustworthy, but Clinton’s campaign had so many reasons for its hack, while a Rep hack was because they are morons or crooks.
>Its possible Iran is trying to tip the election one way.
Walks like a duck, but it is only possible it is a duck. Not even ‘likely’ but it is definitely possible.
> But when you deal with morons, moronic things happen.
KH walks like a duck here.
>And even if you keep repeating the same idiotic thing that the Dems are hoping for the destruction of Israel, it doesn’t make it true.
And yet, it walks like a duck, except I never said nor did I mean ‘hope for’. Big difference in American politics today between ‘hope for’ and doing what needs to be done to get elected, but you knew that Mr Strawman. Yes, I believe if they thought it would secure their goals for a new and more socialist Government that Dems controlled, Dem politicians would let a foreign people burn to do it. I don’t really believe that many of the politicians, much less their voters actually hate the Jewish people, I think the politicians don’t really give a damn at all. But conservatives have been getting called racist for decades now for not pretend caring more about the poor black people than their own families. Live by the false name calling, fall to the false name calling. Dems are as racist as Reps now. By their own words and with no apologies or backtracking (it was not a mis-statement or something they are trying to pretend is something else), your Dem leaders are in the terrorist camp and taking you with them. Enjoy all the fun scenes of rape, beheading, etc. But wait, those are the facts that your media doesn’t want you to see, so you won’t.
>And them shutting down dissident media orgs inside their country sure doesn’t seem to strike me as open minded or free at all either.
But it’s okay for you? Duck, duck, duck, duck.
So hey, still feel like Dem run elections are free for everyone and not favored towards them? How do you feel about straight up suppression? Do you consider state funds being used to set up drop boxes and offer mobile voting ballots only in Dem strongholds and nowhere else in the State to be fair? Do you consider the Dems blocking the Green Party out of being able to vote for their party suppression? Do you consider the executive and judicial branches theft of the legislative branch’s district drawing to be constitutional? It is well known that every 10 years the districts are re-drawn, Dems have the ability to draw the lines if there are more electors that vote Dem on years after the census is taken. It was a task that the victor in the Legislature earned, now it is a task that the other two branches can hi-jack based purely on partisanship? The checks and balances we are losing every year to Dem leadership should be appalling, but to libs they were what ‘needed changes’?
Newsflash, every State has districting going to the majorities in the Legislature…well, every other State. Our Governor does it now. The Dem excuse was because the lines were so squiggly so they were not fair, but the new maps have just as many squiggles, many just have different colors in them now. Whoever wins, the lines favor their party, it is just a different branch of Gov’t here in WI, Given to Dems by Dems for Dems. Not by the people, by Dem pols.
Dad29. The security experts said she had 2FA. But 2FA is only as good as the people who approve 2FA when they didn’t initiate it. There is a common hack that constantly pushes out 2FA requests in hopes that someone approves one. Or, they get fooled by someone on the phone. Just this week someone in our office was fooled by one of these and I was able to disable the account quickly because I get alerted of suspicious successful logins. This shit happens. Now, go back 8 years and my guess is that the tools were not as sophisticated as they are now. Maybe it was SMS authentication and they were SIM swapped? I don’t know how it happened, but they were hacked. Simple.
T. The campaign are not morons and crooks. But Roger Stone IS. And this isn’t a subjective statement. If the KH campaign forwards sensitive information to an outside moron and they get hacked… I will mock them as well. I have been very positive about the Trump campaign so far. I honestly think they are doing a great job as a campaign. And there is only so much you can do with Trump and the way he acts and speaks, he isn’t always the best at following directions or staying on point. But they have run a really good campaign.
I will disagree with you on the gerrymandering. The lines in WI are better and more contiguous now, I don’t know if they are perfect, but I don’t think there ever was perfect solution. 2011 maps were garbage and biased. If you want to say that “Too bad, we won and we now get to make the rules. And we will make it so you it is almost impossible for you to ever make the rules again”. Fine, but I will politely disagree. It has very little to do with the number of electors, but how they are groups. I don’t think the maps should be drawn by the legislature, or the governor. I think there should be a non-partisan OUT OF STATE group that does redistricting. Give a few options, and then let the legislature vote on it. Or, some sort of bi-partisan group that needs to come to agreement. I wouldn’t trust the legislature if it was run by Ds or Rs. The Ds passed on a plan in 2009 to have a non-partisan group option, and then they got smoked in 2010. Every aspect of the 2011 redrawing was shady and not normal.
The mobile voting was done with a grant that Racine received, not state money FYI. And it was shot down by the Supreme Court. I don’t have any issue with drop boxes. I don’t care if there was a drop box at every post office in every city in WI. And in the US about 65% of the states use the Legislature, the rest are some sort of commission or hybrid. Some of the Republican’s problem is how they have not embraced, and in fact demonized things like drop boxes and early voting.
Republic politicians KNOW that the more people that vote, the less likely they are to win. They are very lucky that the youth who almost always skews D doesn’t make it a priority or they would lose every statewide and national election. So it only makes political sense for them to try and limit voting and make it less easy for people to vote. I would personally be OK with a digital online system of voting if you could secure it. Make me show my ID to the camera before I vote or something. We now sign all sorts of important documents the same way. Still have the in person options as well that require less security to verify. I also think that national elections should be holidays where no one works.
And finally, it is gross and awful that the Dems in WI tried to limit the Green party (or any party). We should have more people on the ballots not fewer. But don’t sit there like it is just the Dems that do it. The R’s in TX do it as well. And the 2 party system BOTH try and restrict other parties and make it hard to get on ballots and debates in every state damn near so they can secure their power. Remember that every dirty trick the Republicans have pulled, I can find the same thing the Democrats have pulled or tried. Neither is better or worse. They are just different.
>I wouldn’t trust the legislature if it was run by Ds or Rs.
But you trust a single person? Sorry, but if it is being done by Government it will be partisan. Out of state maps will be partisan. The two parties weaponizing the media has polarized all opinion in the US. There is precious little unbiased opinion in the US right now and neither Party would trust those few with power over them. The Parties have the power. You are for the Governor spending federal funds instead of a group of elected officials, as the victor of the election, but you are against the group of legislators having their spoils of victory. Sorry, but you will not convince anyone here that it is not because Evers is a Dem and the Legislature is Rep controlled. I doubt you could convince yourself of that as it only makes sense in that context. The new maps are not fair, they are Dem favored now.
>“Too bad, we won and we now get to make the rules. And we will make it so you it is almost impossible for you to ever make the rules again”. Fine, but I will politely disagree.
Well you are saying “Too bad, Reps won, but they cannot beat the Governor with his supreme court behind him, so now the losing side gets to do it.” Or to shorten it, “Evers makes the rules now so Reps lose everything everywhere. That, politely speaking, is Autocracy, even treasonous autocracy if you accept unconstitutional as treason, which it has been in the past in multiple legal precedents.
>Every aspect of the 2011 redrawing was shady and not normal.
i.e. business as usual, but not unconstitutional or even really abnormal. If liberal justices followed the constitution, Evers does not draw the lines. Once again, you are on the wrong side of the law, but your leaders control most of the Justice system so whatever they say is now legal.
>The mobile voting was done with a grant that Racine received, not state money FYI.
That first truck was indeed donated by Mark Zuckerburg, a new and exciting way to ‘donate’ to an election, I guess.
> I don’t care if there was a drop box at every post office in every city in WI.
Neither would I, but they are not, they are only in Dem strongholds. Convenient that their voters are all kept in the city ghettoes so they know where the drop boxes should go.
>And in the US about 65% of the states use the Legislature, the rest are some sort of commission or hybrid.
I could swear 100% of the States in the US use a Legislature. Which ones don’t?
>Republic politicians KNOW that the more people that vote, the less likely they are to win.
I would agree that while the cities can call in the illegals to vote, the people out in the depressed country areas have no new ways to vote. If everyone were given the same chances to vote, I don’t think I would agree.
>They are very lucky that the youth who almost always skews D doesn’t make it a priority or they would lose every statewide and national election.
True, the Dem factories pushing out liberally programmed morons has been doing yeoman’s work in dumbing them down and making them see just one color from the political spectrum. And you even agree with me on this, but you seem to support public schooling even harder than ever.
>So it only makes political sense for them to try and limit voting and make it less easy for people to vote.
Except that Dems are the ones doing it right now in WI, I haven’t read up on Texas recently, but without trusting you with facts I won’t just concede the point. What was that about ‘citing every instance in the last 20 years about something happening here and now’? The Reps couldn’t get a new suppression law passed and hasn’t under Evers, but Evers can because he goes outside the State constitution. I don’t mind outside the box, I do mind outside the law. It is Dem lawyers trying to use another very thin technicality to once again keep the Green Party off the ballot and most likely will for the same obvious reason as last election, The WEC is still 3 libs and 3 non-libs. The libs won’t let them on the ballot and 3 to 3 will somehow fall in the libs favor again as it does when they control the law. The excuse that both sides do it isn’t even accurate a lot of the times anymore and isn’t here in WI or other swing States I’d wager. Usually the pattern over the last two and half centuries has been that one side concentrates on fraud and the other suppression. Right now, Dems are mastering them both and you say ‘gross and awful’ as if it is bad and ‘tried’ as if it is not still going on. But your side is doing it here and Reps aren’t. In fact, Reps had their best weapon taken away by Evers and his legal team of State supreme court justices here. and now they have used it to re-draw district lines.
And you still poo-poo the whole idea that the law and constitution isn’t being blatantly broken by Dems while Reps and minorities are being victimized by the same system. It is not 2 way at the moment and conservative Justices have always sided with the constitution so the cry that both sides do it regarding ignoring the Constitution has never been true, but right now libs hold the racist label, they break the Constitution and law at will, they are suppressing not only the Green voters, but are favoring their voting blocks by using state funds (I checked this time:) to drop boxes in their areas, not evenly around the State. They have gerrymandered the State with new lines favorable to Dems. What have any WI Reps done to cheat legally or illegally again? Dems can do all of this because you are kept in ignorance of what they do and are only told one specific story through media suppression. So they can act with no repercussions because they set up the system to do exactly that and libs, given the false promise of prosperity and equality have let it happen. At least Reps still question their elected officials.
The last time I talked about voter suppression/fraud with a liberal, they said Reps were horrible voter suppressors and evil gerrymanderers, but libs did no fraud, not a lick. Now Dems are using all 3 things to their advantage and ‘both sides do it’, is the only response…’kay. I guess you can admit to a little fraud now that all illegal vote processes are liberal and backed by liberal law, Governors and Presidents.
>Maybe it was SMS authentication and they were SIM swapped? I don’t know how it happened, but they were hacked. Simple.
Simple explanation, it was her personal phone that she took with her to every dirty country she visited. Or even more likely, she simply clicked “Yes it’s me” on the message and let her attacker in. In which case it wasn’t a cyber attack, she granted permission.
>The security experts said she had 2FA.
The same security experts that said Trump had a secret server in his Trump Tower that was secretly communicating with a server in Russia? The evidence of that was what again? Oh yeah, DNS Queries from a system inside Trump’s network for a system with a .ru TLD. That same evidence that college research assistants questioned as being a nothing burger?
Yeah, “experts” said. Hold on to that junior.
>Just this week someone in our office was fooled by one of these and I was able to disable the account quickly because I get alerted of suspicious successful logins. This shit happens.
If you were any good at what you do, that would be automated. But we expect less from you.
Jason, you don’t automate suspending accounts because we get a lot of false positives. just today there was a sign in from Canada, and I knew that our employee took a trip to Niagara Falls. I get about 1 false positive a week because we are a mobile workforce. We do automate any that come from out of the North America, but even then a lot of attackers use VPNs to look like they are coming from regional areas.
And even if someone did click “yes” to a 2FA that they didn’t initiate, it is still a Cyber attack. No different if they fall for a phishing or any other social hack.
T, show me ANYTHING illegal that the Governor has done. Because last time I check the Supreme Court determines that. And you may not like their leaning, but I can say the same thing about SCOTUS on my side nationally. I would love to see your data on the drop box distribution honestly. Are they looking at sheer numbers, or based on per capita, etc. Inform me with a link.
We have no idea if the new lines overall favor Rs or Ds. Clearly the Ds will pick up seats, but nothing says they will have any majorities. But is it more or less than before 2011? Were the ones before 2011 fair? Were the ones after 2011 fair? Are these fair? Tell me what you consider fair? And go ahead and look back at the 2011 process and how it was different than all the norms that came before it. Forcing wards to commit to the new lines vs the bottom up model of years prior. The secretive drawing of the maps, the NDAs, etc.
Here is the information about how redistricting works in each state. Many are done by the legislature, but as I said, about 35% are not.
https://ballotpedia.org/State-by-state_redistricting_procedures
>Jason, you don’t automate suspending accounts because we get a lot of false positives. just today there was a sign in from Canada, and I knew that our employee took a trip to Niagara Falls. I get about 1 false positive a week because we are a mobile workforce. We do automate any that come from out of the North America, but even then a lot of attackers use VPNs to look like they are coming from regional areas.
Ohh, sounds so hard. – especially since you only work in NA. Try it for a true multinational with employees and sites almost every country but Iran and North Korea. It’s not if you have the right skills, but hey enjoy being a click monkey. You’ll be one of the first to be replaced by AI.
>T, show me ANYTHING illegal that the Governor has done. Because last time I check the Supreme Court determines that.
Heh, redrawing the district lines was illegal. neither the Governor nor his personal law team have the right to take that right away from the legislature except by amendment. I could probably find a chapter or two worth of misuse of Covid funds, but since everyone knew the money was never all going to be spent on anything concerning Covid, the only question is who gets to spend it. Evers controlling and spending it all was illegal, but it was all the same violation so you could count it as one, I suppose. A Supreme court that is willing to violate a Constitution, State or Federal for partisan gain should be horrifying to all, but you have been programmed so nicely you cheer for it. And you are 100% wrong on national SCOTUS, you cannot say the same thing. The conservative Justices have not violated the Constitution in my lifetime that I can remember. Please elucidate where you disagree. Nothing more really to say on that, we are way too far apart concerning the document our country was founded on.
>I would love to see your data on the drop box distribution honestly. Are they looking at sheer numbers, or based on per capita, etc. Inform me with a link.
I would love to send you a link, but when I enter drop box locations of WI in the fantastically unbiased internet, I get the Madison area only drop boxes, 36 of them. If I enter Milwaukee, I can see the 13 locations. if I enter ‘near me’, I get Milwaukee. I also entered Fox Valley, Green Bay and Racine, no information except where to vote in person absentee. Sorry but I can’t give you a link if the internet is not forthcoming with the data. They don’t just print that sort of thing in a book anymore, y’know. But feel free to disprove it to me by showing me a list of other places. I can’t even get a number on them. Ask how many are there in Wisconsin and you just get articles on how they are legal again. It probably does have something to do with population. Republicans just don’t happen to be ghettoed together so they don’t have any need of them and there are cities like Brookfield who stupidly hold on to the Constitution as written so refused to add drop boxes. And it is very possible that temporary population growths from Universities with conservative city councils don’t want to make it even easier for students to vote, though most University towns are the opposite and kowtow to the Universities that give them revenue, I don’t know. And from the DP perspective, it makes sense to them not to put them out into the country where the comparatively sparse population of depressed rednecks live. But we all know it is about getting YOUR voters in and Dems are doing a good job on it. They made it legal for all, but Covid money is only being spent to put drop boxes in areas where Dems will vote more than Reps.
it is kind of funny to me that there is a modicum of truth to your point that the more people that vote, the more likely it is that Dems will be elected. Rep areas probably don’t need drop boxes as much because most conservatives think it is a responsibility to vote. They will wait in a longer line if they have to because it is their right AND responsibility to vote. Many Dems will do it if it is very easy or if there is an emotional touch-point that can temporarily motivate them to vote. The stereotype is that University kids care about the issues so much, but while they may demonstrate on campus with a beer (or a club) in hand, they can’t be troubled to actually vote for some old fogie, until harangued by their Professors and have the pen and ballot put in their hand for them. As Dems, naturally you want the idealistic little programmees to vote and in general I would say that while I would never hinder the ones that actually have the gumption to vote, I don’t want the ones who have to be pushed to vote doing it. Some young people do think it is important to vote and I would encourage them from either side, but the ones just following the programming probably have never heard of the fact that it is considered a responsibility as well as a right. Them I could do without voting until they have formed their own opinions, if that will ever be possible with the limited schooling served to them as children.
Everyone’s opinions are formed by the things around them. People, books, experiences, etc. Your bias is showing that you always think that “young people” are programmed. For generations, young people have always been more progressive than their parents. I know that the saying is that you become more conservative as you get older, but really the youth probably moves more progressive than people move conservative relatively. And look at what the right-wing looks like vs what it looked like 30 years ago. The US is constantly getting more progressive generation after generation. You can keep believing that kids are programmed by teachers and professors, but I won’t buy it. Parents, friends, and popular media have WAY more influence than a teacher.
Yes, drop boxes are ideal for more densely populated areas, because there is the chance that you WILL have to wait in line for 30 minutes to an hour to vote. And people don’t want to do that. And people SHOULDNT HAVE TO do that. If the Fox Valley wants to put in drop boxes, they can. Whose fault is it that they don’t? Who funds that, the city or the state? The Republican party is just plain stupid if they are not encouraging red areas to do everything they can to vote by any legal means. Then they DESERVE to lose.
We all disagree with different state and national Supreme Court rulings and interpretations.
What are you going on about with the Evers controlling the spending of COVID funds? That isn’t illegal at all. It is LITERALLY written out in our state laws that he has that right for federal funds given for emergencies. Now, if they can change the law, or get the law repealed by the WI Supreme Court on some grounds, then we can talk. But the R tried to change the law… AND FAILED. There is nothing grey about this, and everyone knows it. The R’s just don’t like it.
Jason, I imagine my approach would be different if I worked for a huge Multinational corporation like I did when I worked for GE Healthcare. We are just a nationwide company. I hated worked for GE, it was too restricting of the skills I used and the job I did.
I am not worried about being replaced by AI. Too much of what I do is hands on with hardware and employees. AI is just making my job quicker and easier with configuration and scripting. I like being the IT Manager of a medium sized company. Suits me perfect.
>Your bias is showing that you always think that “young people” are programmed.
Won’t argue that, 16 years in school and 5 years of teaching gave me that bias. I call it fact, you call it hogwash. I was vice-President of the YLA as a Freshman and Sophomore in HS and President the 2 years after that(then started a chapter at UW-O in College). What you call progressive, I call inexperience. Most other students never gave much damn about politics in HS even back then when it was taught as civics. First you go to school and true Communism sounds pretty great, there’d be no conflict because there is no ownership to fight over, Socialism is great because people educated specifically for a life of Gov’t service would be our leaders so the people would just live, everyone would have the same amount as everyone else so again, with no covetousness, no war, murder, etc.
Then you get a job and are required to support yourself. It used to be easy enough until you got married and had kids. Now you need to provide for all of them and hey, since that Socialism thing isn’t what we live under, but I can get ahead with a better job, let’s do it. Then, unless you are one of the lucky ones you see only modest growth in income, but larger growth in things needed to survive and that 30-35% in paying your taxes that largely go only to other people you start to grumble. You may call it conservatism to want to live a decent life and provide for your family, I call it simple self interest. Anything that forces you to pay for others is control in a Democratic society. I doubt anyone, even the most liberal, sees the national debt climbing higher than the GDP as a fine thing, but they bury their heads in the sand and pretend like it will be okay because Government is well beyond the point of no return. Even if they wanted to Reps could not take away all the free shit being given away nor the well earned benefits of seniors that they literally paid for and had until the Government decided it too could be perpetually overdrawn and drained the money tank. I know this. I know neither Party can weather the coming storm. The question will only be who takes over from the ashes and what form will it take. If Dems were as firmly as entrenched as it appears they will be, we will have an Oligarchy. Only the super wealthy and the Government officials will be solvent when it happens and I only hope I will be in the ground before it happens. There will come a time, likely still in my lifetime, but definitely in my wife’s when there will be no more money to give out to the seniors who paid it all in. Then perhaps, the people who allowed it all to go over the cliff might say, if only we had stopped it sooner. Theses are reasons I will never vote for the 2 party system, they failed their people a long time ago and only the programming at the youth level let it go until the end. Voting for Trump won’t stop it, but KH is a steam engine for Socialism as were Biden and Obama. The slower we die, the more likely I won’t have to see it so I do hope Trump wins.
The question you will never ask is why are we sliding more and more swiftly into unsustainable progressivism? Why do we no longer teach critical thinking? Why has civics (basic Government, the branches, checks and balances, etc.) no longer actually taught in schools? There is still a civics NAEP assessment that students are supposed to take and the pass rate is below 25% and that does not count the 11 states that no longer have it in the curriculum at all. I remember that test and it was pathetically simple. Why are students passed and are able to graduate with a 2nd grade reading level? You mentioned social media, I defy you to find any ‘social issue’ topic on the internet that has a conservative take on the first page. The only thing they read on media sites is liberalism. That most definitely includes Facebook and Tik-Tok. if you can find a post that is conservative there it will have hundreds of foul mouthed raving comments underneath it. Why is liberalism gaining so much ground? Because it is the only thing being taught, preached or findably written about in today’s ‘news sources’. At least 30 years ago and more, we were taught both sides and how to critically evaluate them. Dems used public education to cut out that choice. Don’t get me wrong, it was brilliant gamesmanship and since you were taught to never ask “Why?” you will be a happy little lib until it all falls apart. With any luck you can be on the bus with the wheels going round and round as you drive off the cliff.
>It is LITERALLY written out in our state laws that he has that right for federal funds given for emergencies.
Uh-huh, and how much was spent before the ‘crisis’ was over? Maybe a 5th? Does he literally get to spend it whenever and wherever he wants until it is all gone? That is what the state law says, is it? Do you mind citing that?
>We all disagree with different state and national Supreme Court rulings and interpretations.
Except when libs disagree with the Constitution they reinterpret it, Conservatives apply the interpretation for better or worse. Con constituents may disagree but they accept, libs work on getting elected to the courts and change the interpretation.
>But the R tried to change the law… AND FAILED. There is nothing grey about this, and everyone knows it.
More great gamesmanship I fully admit. The April elections referenda passed, so Dems got to work challenging them in the lib scotus and the new ones onto the August primary ticket and frothed up their Madison and Milwaukee followers. With just 26% statewide vote participation, Madison and Milwaukee both had over 45% voter turnouts or over 60% of the voters that voted in August. It was not a statement by the people of WI it was a statement by the two entrenched liberal pockets in WI that not so mysteriously had easy access and encouragement to vote. Put those referenda THAT FAILED on the November ticket and you get a good reading on the will of the people. Maybe they still fail, but if you read them you would know that they were commonsense and very likely would have passed as the margins of failure were both under 60%. And face it, if Walker were still Governor, your whole base would have voted against it rather than for it. It is not a great law that deserved to preserved on its own merits. You hate it fully as much as any Rep if the partisan shoe were on the other foot.
Have a good weekend.
>Too much of what I do is hands on with hardware and employees.
So you’re helpdesk or maybe the fancy term “Service Delivery”.
Ok kiddo, enjoy clicking all day long. It wears on you but you just can’t seem to break free from it.
You are the exact demographic who should be fearing AI. And if you truly are a help desk manager, you should be quaking in your boots. Your job will be the first to be replaced.
No Jason. I am the IT Manager, like the head guy of the entire dept. We are a small department and I handle hardware, software, Windows desktop and Server administration, Security, VOIP, AWS, networking, and the occasional help desk when needed, etc. We are a midsized company of about 450 employees. What good is a manager if they can’t do most of the positions on his team somewhat.
Like I said, not worried at all about my position. I have been in my position for 17 years, and in the industry for 25, working my way up from Help Desk. But it sure seems like you have been thinking a lot about it and maybe are worried for whatever position you are in. I wish you and whatever position you have the best.
This:
>Just this week someone in our office was fooled by one of these and I was able to disable the account quickly because I get alerted of suspicious successful logins.
Plus this:
>you don’t automate suspending accounts because we get a lot of false positives. just today there was a sign in from Canada, and I knew that our employee took a trip to Niagara Falls. I get about 1 false positive a week because we are a mobile workforce.
And now this:
>I handle hardware, software, Windows desktop and Server administration, Security, VOIP, AWS, networking, and the occasional help desk when needed, etc
Means you might have been given the title of “Manager” in a tiny company… but you’re NOT an IT manager. You’re a Help Desk tech. Your small company probably won’t be able to afford to directly replace you with AI, they’ll hop first to an MSP, and from there that MSP will use AI to do most of your function as well as a cheap local hands-on friendly for local hardware.
If you were just a little more perceptive, you would be losing sleep to what’s happening and what your future looks like – or doesn’t look like. Especially with the lack of knowledge about IT and Info Sec you’ve shared here at this one site.
Jason, my company CAME to me from an MSP. I don’t know many help desk techs that build and design AWS infrastructure, build and support MS Server farms, and handle the Cisco gear. But it has been a long time since I have been a simple cog with no input in the future of a company. Is that how it is now buddy?
Thanks, I’m good. I appreciate your concern.
Jason, if you’re insinuating that JonnyV doesn’t have actual programming experience and thus has a deficiency which should disqualify him from “IT Manager,” …..well…..it is certainly true that JonnyV is not burdened by logic, which is a requirement for a good analyst/coder.
Got me Dad29. I am not a good coder, I am a mediocre scripter too. I am an IT manager who does a lot of Windows and server support. I build AWS environments. I handle our outside vendors and security concerns.
I am not a coder, never grabbed me.
I do have a Laravel/PHP app I run on the side that ChatGPT now helps me with. But it is a side hustle.