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2102, 31 Oct 24

Harris Prepares Ground for the Big Cheat

She is laying the rhetorical groundwork for quashing any pushback or scrutiny when her side tries to cheat their way to victory.

Vice President Kamala Harris believes former President Donald Trump “is capable of anything” when it comes to challenging the result of this year’s presidential election, telling ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Mary Bruce her legal team is “ready” for whatever Trump may do after next Tuesday’s vote.

 

“We are, sadly, ready” if Trump challenges the election results, as he did four years ago, Harris told Bruce in an exclusive interview after her rally in North Carolina on Wednesday.

 

“And if we know that he is manipulating the press and attempting to manipulate the consensus of the American people based on fiction instead of facts, we’re prepared to respond,” she said.

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2102, 31 October 2024

11 Comments

  1. jonnyv

    Almost as if Trump has been constantly setting the temperature that if he loses it was “Stolen”. And that he plans on challenging any results that don’t favor him.

    And to be clear, I think that Trump is going to win. But if he somehow manages to lose, you can be SURE that he will be throwing every excuse and conspiracy theory out there as to WHY he lost… without an iota of proof.

  2. Mike

    Trump already won a court case on election interference in Pennsylvania. Bucks County has to have three extra days of voting due to democrat interference and closing polls early.

  3. jonnyv

    Election interference?!? They closed at 5pm and people were still in line because the Trump rally caused backups due to road closures. And the Shapiro administration also thought the people in line should get their early vote.

    Amazing how the R viewpoint in early voting has switched this election.

    I think those people should get to stay in line, just like election night when we see long lines.

  4. MjM

    ….but the lawsuit claims that not everyone had that opportunity after security officers shut down the line around 2:45 p.m.

    Open till 5 but shut down at 2:45.

    Sounds legit. To Demorats, that is.

  5. Tuerqas

    Democrats can openly suppress the vote even against other liberals, but virtually all libs still believe there is no fraud or if there is somehow, Trump has or will set up the fraudulent voting (like he has any of the people in charge of vote security on his payroll).
    They can add 20+ million non-citizens to the voting roles, but that isn’t voter fraud to a an idiot, I mean lib.
    Dems are currently the party of cheating, racism, suppression AND fraud. Libs could possibly see the first 3, but because there is ridiculously little oversight on early voting no one has any proof. JV, that is just as Dems want it.

    >Amazing how the R viewpoint in early voting has switched this election.
    No, not much at all. Rs still do not want early voting without some sort of serious guidelines to protect the security of the votes. However, since it is being used by Dems whether it was deemed unconstitutional/against existing regulations or not, Rs have encouraged their voters to get out early as well. They don’t have the tens of thousands or more of voters listing public locations as their homes like the Dems do, but it may get in a few more R votes from the people who vote last minute and then can’t or don’t for some reason. Opinion has not changed and you show your blindness again with that comment.
    I guess you believe that Dems created the idea and forced it through in many states legally or illegally so only Dem voters should be allowed to use it, just like the officials that noticed a few too many MAGA hats in line with a Trump rally nearby so shut it down early.

    >“And if we know that he is manipulating the press and attempting to manipulate the consensus of the American people based on fiction instead of facts, we’re prepared to respond,” she said.
    WHAT THE…WHO THE…WHAT? So the party of lying and cheating is pre-accusing Trump for allegedly doing what they absolutely have been doing the last 20 years? Again!?! Every bad thing he has been attacked on by the Harris campaign has been what they are currently or planning to be guilty of.
    This is the worst I have ever seen in American political history and media is to blame. Printing lies for Dems and not printing news if it doesn’t favor the Party agenda is disgusting. I am so glad I am over 60…

  6. jonnyv

    And T, you show your ignorance on Early Voting vs Drop box voting. Rs traditionally were not early voters and Ds were, but there has never been a legal issue to it. And I was referencing the numbers of R voters who early voted, not the actual legality of it. R early voting is way up this year, surpassing Ds in many places. The question is if they are additional voters or if they are cannibalizing day-of voting.

    I happen to be a big fan of early voting. Anything we can do to help shorten lines so that people are not dis-incentivized to vote. No one should have to wait 2 hours in line to vote. There are only 3 states that don’t allow early voting.

    And if you think they shut it down because of the MAGA hats??? You are clearly more insane than I give you credit for. They shut it down due to staffing issues. That county is virtually 50/50 R/D.

    Until you can prove voter fraud, you are just blowing wind with no evidence. Every time people (including Trump admins) have looked, they have found virtually NO voter fraud. In Georgia they found 20 registrations… out of 8.2 million. Ohio found 597 who registered, but nothing says they voted. So, keep believing the big bad scary non-sense of it. The more you focus on swinging at windmills, the less you focus on actual issues.

    FWIW. i don’t think the media is to blame. The media is a direct reflection of the people. The media is out to sell advertising, and will show whatever brings them eyeballs. We are more divided now than ever before and the media reflects that. Not the other way around. I would more-so blame social media and algorithms that now cater directly to and enhance people’s existing beliefs. But that’s just my opinion.

  7. Tuerqas

    >And T, you show your ignorance on Early Voting vs Drop box voting. Rs traditionally were not early voters and Ds were, but there has never been a legal issue to it.
    Really? You want to make a small wager? If no excuse absentee or early voting was always legal, how come it’s first use was in 1970 in CA? Why didn’t we all just do it since 1790? Each State had to pass regulations for it individually. You may not have heard of this, but there are State rights guaranteed in the Constitution (in fact, all rights not guaranteed to the national Government are States rights) and legal voting methods is one of them…you know, like abortion rights. Each State passed its own version and there are three that have not at all, according to you. And before that an early vote was not allowed or legal. I have always been fine with early in person voting where your name is still scratched off a role with their initials on it, it was not a rule I have ever had a problem with. One day voting for all Americans is unrealistic. My problem is with no excuse absentee voting and I misused ‘early voting’ above, that is not my stance and I made a mistake to write it that way.

    >And if you think they shut it down because of the MAGA hats??? You are clearly more insane than I give you credit for.
    It was sarcasm, you moron.

    >Until you can prove voter fraud, you are just blowing wind with no evidence. Every time people (including Trump admins) have looked, they have found virtually NO voter fraud.
    Just maybe it is because there is still zero oversight on it. There is still no cross checking absentee ballots with votes on voting day. So what does the lib machine say about the thousands of registered addresses to Walmarts or a single halfway house and other public businesses? How many illegal and legal migrants who have driver’s licenses and real places to live vote? There is absolutely no way to tell in any state in the US, currently if that is happening. There is no proof of citizenship requirement in any State in the US at this time, that I know of. And there won’t be in any blue states anyway. No sensible oversight is the best way to skirt oversight. Do you know what defined a fraudulent vote before around 2008? How many fraud convictions were on record. With no one interested in prosecuting it, that meant that there were almost zero so politicians could say it wasn’t happening. I fully believe that Reps used voter fraud heavily throughout the early 20th century, it was in my History class and pretty well documented. They lost that avenue with the coming of FDR. Dems were the party of suppression at the time, especially throughout the South. After FDR it switched and Reps practiced suppression while Dems worked the voter fraud avenue. That was until Dems took over both avenues for these last 2 elections. Like you said, we will know how effective it was in a few days.

    >You are clearly more insane than I give you credit for.
    So you already credited me with insanity, but I am more insane that that…heh. And you are a lib robot, but I have not thought you any more or less programmed than when we first communicated with each other. You constantly accuse me being in the tank for Reps when all you have ever given is the identical Dem held beliefs I have read in every comment section I have seen from a lib, except RFK I guess I have to say at this point.

    >FWIW. i don’t think the media is to blame. The media is a direct reflection of the people. The media is out to sell advertising, and will show whatever brings them eyeballs. We are more divided now than ever before and the media reflects that. Not the other way around. I would more-so blame social media and algorithms that now cater directly to and enhance people’s existing beliefs. But that’s just my opinion.
    Nothing makes me sadder than libs saying that. To keep the same example, anyone can look up and watch the full debate between KH and DT and no one can think KH gave anything but lies about Trump’s stances and direct attacks on him. She spoke of no policies except those that are the opposite of her stated beliefs from the past. But you can also go and look up MSM media commentary on the debate and they all praise her except Fox and other conservative sites. That is false journalism, just saying it enough to make it true to their programmees. You should hate it, but you seem to love it and defend it over and over. And btw, the majority of people get their news from their phone or devices today so they see whatever article is trending. And at least I know that this can be easily manipulated.

  8. jonnyv

    T, typical that you try to put words in my mouth or change what was written. I clearly said that there has never been a legal issue to it. You quoted me. No where did I say it has always been available. But there has NEVER been a legal question to early voting since it has been available.

    As for the debate. KH came out looking better than Trump. It was almost universally agreed upon. The debates have LONG not been about actual policies. They are about getting sound bites now. And as far as going against her stated beliefs from the past, you could easily just say that since her 4 years as the VP, her perspectives have changed. Look at the Hovde quotes about abortion from him past. And he came out in the debate with a “changed perspective” on it.

    RFK hasn’t been a democrat in 2 years. He is a kooky anti vaccination guy who believes they cause autism (THEY DONT). And if he were ever in charge of the CDC & FDA, I could almost place a bet that we see a resurgence in childhood diseases. But I don’t think it will happen. My guess is that Trump bails on him after he got what he wanted out of him. It’s like people who think that Elon will actually come in and cut services and reduce gov’t costs. Not only is it a huge conflict of interest, seeing as how he is the beneficiary of gov’t contracts and insurance, but also it just isn’t something that will happen realistically. More fodder for people to try and glom onto.

  9. dad29

    The media is a direct reflection of the people. The media is out to sell advertising, and will show whatever brings them eyeballs.

    When GE taught you about “oligopoly” you must have been napping.

    There are only 5 national “news” networks; of those 5, only 1 can be described as ‘neutral’ or maybe ‘conservative.’ They have, together, an oligopoly on national advertising dollars. They don’t reflect “the people” any more than did Pravda. They don’t have to, because they are oligopolists. In Milwaukee, the print news is a monopoly, by the way. Look that up. MKE’s television news outlets are also an oligopoly. If you want to advertise, you must select one (or all) even if you puke at their Left Lean. Too bad. Buy our ad time or die.

    No different from Ford/GM/Chrysler before the Japanese invasion. They could (and did) sell crapola until Toyota taught them about quality, which–ironically–we had taught Toyota after WWII.

  10. Tuerqas

    >No where did I say it has always been available. But there has NEVER been a legal question to early voting since it has been available.
    >re-quote – but there has never been a legal issue to it.
    No, but before that it was illegal and it was a fight to legalize it in many states, still is illegal in 3 states. How is that hard to understand? Not to mention that I clearly stated that I meant no excuse absentee balloting and mis-used the phrase early voting. Typical indeed.

    >As for the debate. KH came out looking better than Trump. It was almost universally agreed upon.
    In the liberal media, absolutely. Can you point me out a conservative news source that agrees with the you? See Dad’s comments on Oligopoly above.

    > And as far as going against her stated beliefs from the past, you could easily just say that since her 4 years as the VP, her perspectives have changed.
    Except she never backtracked on any issue, she just told general lies on pretend future policies. You have admitted that politicians lie all the time, but you still believe the words of Dems without much question. Like Trump she never once admitted to a mistake or to supporting bad policy.

    >FWIW. i don’t think the media is to blame. The media is a direct reflection of the people. The media is out to sell advertising, and will show whatever brings them eyeballs. We are more divided now than ever before and the media reflects that. Not the other way around.
    See, I don’t believe we would be nearly as divided if the media was the champion of truth, and Government caused that divide. If we both had one set of facts and a neutral field to read it from, we would still have some disagreements, but not nearly as much as we have now. We don’t know the truth on many issues and events because we are deliberately being kept in the dark so we can be fed a line that will stimulate a specific belief. And the very few relatively impartial news sites are called extremists, quacks, liars, you name it (actually MSM names it and you believe it). Government actively wants and works for the discord in the US today and the now partisan media props it up.

    No one, neither Dem nor Rep supporters are just given facts anymore in this century and left to make up their own mind and the lack of real education is also a big part of that. Imagine how a large number of people would feel if the news had been reporting clearly and impartially that the Dem Party was already using the legal system as a weapon (what they accused of Trump of intending during the campaign) and not just against Trump, but suppression even against other liberal Parties. If it was widely written that the the Dem Party had become the anti-Semites, if local city news reports investigated why the Blacks in this nation are poorer and more ghettoized in the big cities than ever and DEMS are the local Government in just about every one of them. There is never an honest discussion on the plight of blacks in America, there is only talk on how they are the subject of racism by conservatives, as if we have the power in those cities. No, you (and all libs in general) never hear about the downfall of principles in the Dem Party, only the equally valid lack of Republican principles. If we all heard the truth, I would have great hope for the Libertarian Party, or some other third Party. 73% of Dems voting feared Trump as POTUS even though he has already proved how he would act and react to many situations 4 years ago. That was the Dem Party campaign with zero fact check by media, fear, fear, fear, with a few generalities on vague policy that only an idiot could believe at this point without media complicity.

    Because I can see no change coming with the media, any and every negative idea you have on Trump’s Presidency will be true (according to the sources you will continue to listen to) along with many you have not yet identified. And that is because you will read a media that wants you to hate him and see him fail so that the other Party can get back into power and they are happy to lie, obfuscate, and cherry pick what ‘facts’ they tell to make every single thing that Trump does look like failure. As long as you accept the media is not to blame, you will only ever believe one perspective on every event and that is whatever they say. Unchecked power is what Dems are working toward, Trump doesn’t care in the least past the next 4 years.

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