No one is questioning the right of members of Congress and others to criticize Israeli policies. But Omar is crossing a line that should not be crossed in political discourse. Her remarks are not anti-Israel; they are anti-Semitic.
Whether consciously or not, Representative Omar is repeating some of the ugliest stereotypes about Jews—tropes that have been unleashed by anti-Semites throughout history. She is casting Jewish Americans as the other, suggesting a dual loyalty that calls our devotion to America into question.
Democrats have really destroyed themselves by having to defend the anti-American “Squad”.
And this comes from conservatives;
https://thebulwark.com/the-cancer-is-spreading/
Pat:
Great find. Informative, and scary.
I bet 97% of Republicans would support Trump if he came right out and called
Al Green a stupid nigger.
You 3 are really digging deep for Red Herrings tonight.
Anything to take attention off the evil, anti-American “liberal squad .
Typical.
So k, freedom of speech is only for you and not for anyone else? Don’t lecture us again on the 2nd amendment.
I’m just commenting that it says a lot about you when you side with “the squad”…they utterly hate America, refuse to denounce leftist Antifa terrorists, and muslim terrorists.
You are free to side with terrorist excusing evil. I am telling you are wrong siding with evil.
k:
Point out where I, “side with terrorist excusing evil”. Use the precise quote.
Nord,
When you claim my criticism of the squad for their anti-American, awful behavior is an attack on their freedom of speech. Worse, you fail to denounce their evil acts.
You are running interference for evil when you run Red Herrings to take focus off correcting their unrepentant hate America,attitude. You embolden “the squad” in their hate.
Prove me wrong.
Openly denounce the squad’s anti-American behavior.
Kevin,
Since when do you get to say that individuals hate America? Where is your proof that they truly hate America?
First of all please accept my apologies for the inadvertent error: It should be 1st amendment, not 2nd (above).
Secondly:
k, you don’t get to be the arbiter of what is or isn’t hate. I didn’t embolden hate anywhere, or at any time. I’ll leave the hating to you. That seems to be your fall back position for things and people that you disagree with. And once again you are making things up to prop up your ridiculous claims. Up here they call that lying.
Pat,
Well, let’s start here:
https://www.dailywire.com/news/49607/ilhan-omar-introduce-pro-bds-resolution-bds-ryan-saavedra
Nord,
What are you talking about?
Leftists are the unmerciful arbiter of hate all day long 24/7.
I believe in science of biological gender…I’m accused of “hate”.
I support God’s design for marriage…I’m accused of “hate”.
I support locking criminals up…I’m accused of “hate”.
The left has a twisted morality the inflicts crazy judgement all day long.
Are you just upset because the morality I expose is consistent?
Kevin,
No where in that opinion piece is there anything that validates your statement about the four women hating America.
Plus you’d have to reference someone more credible than Ryan Saavedra. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Saavedra
Pat,
I wanted to start with Omar.
I am sure that is exactly what the Trump haters start with before flinging “racist and bigot” around….”no where in trump’s statement does it validate Trump hating minorities”.
Give me a break.
You ignore Omar’s dripping anti-Jewish because you want to.
PAt,
…and “wikipedia” is now a valid source for information? That is hilarious! The libs that wrote that page from their mom’s basement are laughing that you bought it.
Kevin,
Please point out the inaccuracies.
Kevin,
Where in that opinion piece does it prove that Omar, or any of the other three women hate America?
Why Pat? Do you happen to have doubts? There’s no proof that they hate Trump either. What do you think?
G,
Have doubts for what? Do they hate Trump? I wouldn’t doubt that in the least. But loving America isn’t synonymous with the need to love Trump. I’m positive that there were a lot of individuals that hated Obama but loved America.
Now, what do you think?
Anybody hater who uses Anti-Trump hater, Charlie Sykes’s magazine or blog or whatever it is, is a losing argument right away.
k:
“Are you just upset because the morality I expose is consistent?”.
Yes, because you have consistently supported adulterers (WH and WI SC), racists and bigots (WH), and pathological liars (WH) at the expense of freedom, truth, and the American Way. Because we both live in the US you are free to hold and cherish any belief you want, but not free to force your will on others, nor spread falsehoods to defend your positions.
Mark,
So whose magazine or blog or whatever should be used for a winning argument?
Nord,
You consistently support the baby killers, the people who hate America, want to weaken our security, and disrespect the greatness of this nation.
There, now we traded political insults.
At least I am against baby killers…that is just utterly reprehensible.
Pat,
How about this…
https://www.wsj.com/articles/can-ilhan-omar-overcome-her-prejudice-11562970265
Still convinced she is not an anti-Semitic, pro Islamic terorist, garbage human being?
Kevin,
Sorry, I can’t read the whole article as I’m not a subscriber.
I disagree with the words Omar’s chosen to use. Much like you disagree with many of the words Trump’s chosen to use. She’s even apologized for things she has said.
Pat,
Has she condemned Islamic terrorism?
Has she condemned Hezbolah terrrorism?
Has she condemned ANTIFA terrorism?
She has not, and refused to last week. She is very symapthetic to Palestinien terrorists and Antifa terrorists. That is obvious.
That makes her evil.
Kevin,
If she’s evil the people she represents will have a chance to vote her out in 2020.
Pat,
But you have a chance to denounce her as an Anti-AMERICAN, pro-terrorist supporting, Jewish hating Democrat….
Do you have courage or will you cower in the face of simple morality of defending everything that is good about Western civilization?
Why? To humor you?
k:
“You consistently support the baby killers, the people who hate America, want to weaken our security, and disrespect the greatness of this nation”
Nope, you are lying again.
Pat,
To show you are willing to separate and marginalize evil politicians from mainstream of civil society.
Unless you think good and civil society is not worth saving.
Maybe you should send her back?
The silence on this site about this is deafening.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/trump-summons-demons-ilhan-omar/
Pat,
I think the “send her back” chant was too far and obnoixious as well. Trump did denounce that after the event. All is forgiven.
Has Omar repented of anything? She is still the same.
When will you denounce?
Yes, she’s apologized for her words and being insensitive.
Do throngs of great American patriots chant send her back?
Pat,
She did not apologize, she made fun of others for misunderstanding her.
That was not an apology. She regrets nothing.
It awful you even call that an apology.
She refuses to denounce Palestinian terrorism, Islamic terrorism and continues to be anti-Semitic.
Can’t we even get a weak denouncement from you?
I heard her say, “I apologize”. You must have missed it.
Pat, yes but you ignore the conditions after apology!
It was like saying “I love puppies”…while kicking a puppy.
Either you are hopelessly naive or intentionally covering evil if you maintain this position.
Kevin,
You missed the conditions after Trumps denouncement too, I guess.
Pat
Like?
Trump was solid on correcting
Omar is still a U.S.hater and pro-terrorist. She just introduced the hateful BDS bill which is anti-Semitism on massive level. She still hates unrepentant.
Kevin,
I guess you’re hopelessly naive. You make the perfect Trump fluffer.
Pat,
Trump admonished and corrected others. He does that all the time.
Omar did not correct herself. She blamed others for misunderstanding her. She is not sorry.
You cannot denounce any of her bad acts?
I RIP Trump when he says something stupid.
“I RIP Trump when he says something stupid.”
That’s gotta be a full time job.
Pat,
So it will not be a problem for you to rip the obvious hateful, Omar here?
Don’t carp about Trump’s minor rhetoric issues, when Omar refuses to denounce terrorists and says awful things about this country and tears it down.
When you rip OMAR for her disgustingly awful things, I can take your Trump criticism more seriously.
I remember all the awful things Trump said about this country before taking office, tearing it down, do you?
How about Trump constantly praising, defending, horrible, evil dictators. Siding with our enemies and ripping our allies.
Trump, putting down American hero’s and disparaging gold star families.
And, the constant lies and misinformation he feeds Americans.
You honestly can’t say that he is an example you want your children to emulate. Or, maybe you can.
Pat,
Point one out and I’ll tell you whether it was out of line.
Will you do that for Omar?
Oh, I see. Some of his lies are acceptable.
Again, is he an example you want to emulate?
You want your children to emulate?
PAt,
I am saying there is a BIG difference between being worng about something vs. being an anti-Semitic hate monger like Omar.
Trump lying about his affair with Stormy Daniels (which she now has denied), is not nearly the offense of Omar supporting the hateful BDS movement.
It is an aburd notion we must ignore’s Omar’s open, cancerous, evil, because Trump says something stupid sometimes.
There’s a big difference between being wrong about something and coming out and intentionally lying to the American public.
How about Trump constantly praising, defending, horrible, evil dictators. Siding with our enemies and ripping our allies.
How about Trump putting down American hero’s and disparaging gold star families.
Again, Is Trump someone you thinks sets an example you want your children to emulate.
1.) He is wrong to praise dictators.
2.) He was wrong to disparage any gold star families.
There is not one president I would want my children to emulate. They all have flaws, sins and mistakes, like anyone. I wouldn’t want anyone to emulate Obama, George W, certainly not Clinton, etc. I wouldn’t even want them to emulate Reagan when it comes to the idea of marriage for life. Your question is absurd and stupid.
Will you denounce Omar?
1.) On her vicious support of BDS movement?
2.) Her refusal to denounce Antifa terrorists?
3.) Her refusal to denounce Islamic terrorists?
Has Omar said she supports Islamic terrorists?
Has Omar said she supports Antifa?
Please provide her exact quotes.
You please provide me with the exact wording of the bill she is sponsoring that directly mentions BDS.
Kevin,
I found the bill I think you’re referencing. It reads;
Affirming that all Americans have the right to participate in boycotts in pursuit of civil and human rights at home and abroad, as protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution.
Whereas boycotts have been effectively used in the United States by advocates for equal rights since the Boston Tea Party and include boycotts led by civil rights activists during the 1950s and 1960s in order to advocate for racial equality, such as the Montgomery bus boycott, and promote workers’ rights, such as the United Farm Workers-led boycott of table grapes;
Whereas Americans of conscience have a proud history of participating in boycotts to advocate for human rights abroad, including—
(1) attempting to slow Japanese aggression in the Pacific by boycotting Imperial Japan in 1937 and 1938;
(2) boycotting Nazi Germany from March 1933 to October 1941 in response to the dehumanization of the Jewish people in the lead-up to the Holocaust;
(3) the United States Olympic Committee boycotting the 1980 summer Olympics in Moscow in protest of the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in the preceding year; and
(4) leading the campaign in the 1980s to boycott South African goods in opposition to apartheid in that country;
Whereas the Supreme Court, in the 1966 case Rosenblatt v. Baer, held that the First Amendment to the Constitution ensures that “[c]riticism of government is at the very center of the constitutionally protected area of free discussion”;
Whereas the Supreme Court held in the 1982 case NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware that “[t]he right of the States to regulate economic activity could not justify a complete prohibition against a nonviolent, politically motivated boycott … .”;
Whereas the Supreme Court has recognized various activities as “expressive conduct” warranting constitutional protection, such as flag burning, wearing black armbands, silent sit-ins, and creating and designing custom wedding cakes; and
Whereas despite this tradition, governments and nongovernmental organizations alike have sought to criminalize, stigmatize, and delegitimize the use of boycotts in an attempt to stifle constitutionally protected political expression: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved, That the House of Representatives—
(1) affirms that all Americans have the right to participate in boycotts in pursuit of civil and human rights at home and abroad, as protected by the First Amendment to the Constitution;
(2) opposes unconstitutional legislative efforts to limit the use of boycotts to further civil rights at home and abroad; and
(3) urges Congress, States, and civil rights leaders from all communities to endeavor to preserve the freedom of advocacy for all by opposing antiboycott resolutions and legislation.
Kevin,
I read through this resolution a few times now. If this is the resolution you’re referencing, I’ll need you to point to the wording that you have an issue with.
Pat,
The bill essentially requires a Jewish star be put on all products from Israel.
That is reprehensible….on many levels.
You have Jew haters trying to ostricize Jews.
Omar is the ring leader of this bill.
the fact you are blind to it while you worry about the kindergarden stuff Trump does, says a lot about you.
There is news footage of reporters asking Omar if she condemns Antifa terrorisn and Islamic terrorism…she refuses to condemn. It is an easy question to answer. she refuses to answer because she favors both groups.
Get with the program.
Kevin says, “The bill essentially requires a Jewish star be put on all products from Israel.”
I must have missed that wording. Would you please tell me where it says that please.
I’m not seeing any reference to Israel in the referendum. It reads like it’s pro first amendment to me.
I thought conservatives, and liberals, like boycotting things they don’t like. Off the top of my head I can think of the NFL, Penzey’s, Nike, Home Depot, Tri-Par, Johnsonville, New Glarus, and, well, you probably know more.
Omar ignoring a reporter is her privilege. I see politicians doing that all the time. Just the other day a number of the GOP refused to answer reporters inquiring if they thought Trump’s words were racist. If I follow your logic that would mean that they said he is.
Generally speaking, all products have to have ‘country of origin’ labels, but usually those are not flags.
The US should NEVER make boycotts of other countries, or their goods, illegal. That has been proposed by some Zionist ring-dings here and they should be slapped in the chops for that proposal.
Pat,
So Rahm is full of crap at top?
I love how you are willing to drill Trump for minor crap, but Omar speaks major hate….nothing to serve here.
Awful. Just awful.
I’m curious. Why would a group of liberals frequent a clearly conservative forum for the sake of disagreeing with the majority of conservative comments? Do you actually think you’re going to win any arguments or change anyone’s mind? Given most of the conversations you’ve participated in, I personally see no reason whatsoever to respond to anything you have to say. Do us all a favor and go back to your liberal forums where you’re all on the same page and everybody will happily agree with you. An intelligent conversation sharing thoughts with opposing views is one thing. Arguing and constantly demanding proof of everything contrary with your views is another. You’re clearly not here to contribute anything other than opposing views.
Guinness harkens, “I personally see no reason whatsoever to respond to anything you have to say.”
And yet, you do.
I think liberals here are begging to be reformed.
They understand the Democrats are party of slavery, Jim Crow, Ku Klux Klan, and have always used minorities as pawns in their game. They want to wash their hands of Democrats and liberal evil, but are afraid to leave the gang for fear of liberal retribution. I was watching a history retrospective on 1924 Democrat convention… how it was a literal KKK clam bake.
Glad I’m a Libertarian!
Libertarian as a philosophy is fine.
As a Party, is is just a debating society that can’t get together on anything. It still should not be an excuse to stay silent against evil.
Daddio sez: “The US should NEVER make boycotts of other countries, or their goods, illegall”
I think you may be missing the point of this silly, factually deficient resolution (because boycotting is the nation’s most pressing issue, dontchaknow).
This is a setup, a shot at a future official house endorsement of BDS, and toward the goal of house participation in BDS.
Which, constitutionally, the house cannot do, But reality escapes The Jihad Squad on a daily basis, so they have nothing to offer except hate and stupidity.
You might want to re-think that, Kevin. Or you can affirm it and declare the Ten Commandments null and void.
dad29,
Libertarian does not nulify the 10 commandments in practice for a Christian.
The first 3 commandments have never been enforced by law in US.
While Honor your Father and mother is good practice given the state of U.S., that has never been practice to prosecute in U.S.
Adultery is reprehensible, but again to lock people up over it…
Bearing false witness is possible a civil and criminal penalty, but the hurdles to prove are high. There is a ton of false witness that should be corrected by church, and church members that would never get to court.
Libertarians support enforcing the commandments (AT GOVERNMENT LEVEL) where violence hurts others. Or when fraud (false witness) hurts others. Christians should support following all 10 commendments in their everyday lives.
I don’t see Libertarian philosophy incompatable with the 10 commandments. In fact, Libertarian philosophy should allow the 10 commandments to be spoken of in public square…something oppressive liberalism does not always allow.
I agree some Liberatarians are weak on abortion becaue they dehumanize babies, but liberals suffer from that mental disease in spades.
I am not huge on legalization of drugs, but if we are going to legalize pot, let’s tax it heavily. Make the stupid, pay the stupid tax.
Merely making a comment the party is hopelessly dysfunctional because Libertarians tend to be rugged individualists that never want to play well as a group.
Philosophically, Libertarians who actually believe their creed are radical individualists. There is no “you” or “others” in their community, as it consists of only one person.
That’s the actual outcome of the philosophical premises. As you can see, the outcome is not compatible with how the USA actually works.
As a result, most Libertarians do not “live” their philosophy, just as most Muslims who live here do not practice their religion to the letter. Yes, I know about Original Sin and Christians, too…..
As to legalizing drugs, there are serious arguments against that position. It will NOT eliminate cartels; it will NOT bring in anywhere near the projected tax “revenue” (see point one); there are long-term effects of weed which are deleterious; and of course, ‘under the influence’ will be a far more difficult charge to prove than alcohol-related.
You should read this post: http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-stupid-is-strong-with-these.html written by a very conservative guy who works in an emergency room in the L.A. area. It’s the last of a few posts on that topic–he’s arguing with a ‘legalize’ guy on the other side of the country. If that’s the kind of country you want your kids to inherit….
k:
We are all still waiting, where does it say this?
“The bill essentially requires a Jewish star be put on all products from Israel”.
Or did you make that up as well?
Nord,
As Kevin is a stickler for making sure that exact wording is quoted, I’m surprised he said that the referendum sited says that, because it doesn’t.
Awful, just awful.
Shameful, just shameful. Untruthful as well. k wants others to play by rules he can’t or won’t follow himself.
Dad29,
I’m not on board with legalization of most drugs, but if we must legalize pot, let’s tax the hell out of the stupid.
Your description of libertarian philosophy is not accurate. Basic rights do stop at my first hitting your nose (unless self defense). Libertarian philosophy does not negate others as you implied. All libertarians subscribe to ” voluntary consent” with others with contract matters…something your article woefully ignores.
The philosophy that ‘all’s fine until it harms another’ is not one which describes concern with a community of any sort. “Voluntary consent” is a manifestation of the same. You should look a little deeper into it, friend.
The link I provided was a lengthy argument–from experience–against legalizing pot. You concede such legalization and justify same by demanding revenue from sales. Aside from your position being a fine example of foolish Libertarian philosophy*, “taxing it” does NOT work in practice as the advertisers would have you believe.
Kindly re-read the blogpost.
*Philosophy: “Weed does not harm others when I smoke it.” Reality: Others pay the hospital and funeral bills, not to mention the other social costs: widows/widowers, parent-less children…..the list goes on.
Decriminalization of pot is one of those subjects where the lies have been around and repeated for so long that they’re being accepted as reality. Not truth, but reality. Most folks can’t be bothered to draw a distinction between the two anymore.
The notion of taxing stoners is an amusing one… in a Wiley E. Coyote sort of way. Why would stoners suddenly become interested in buying at retail prices and paying taxes? They’re not and neither would occur in any meaningful way. Their only real concern is being able to bake without legal consequences. All the rest is bullshit.
dad29,
When it comes to legalization of pot:
I agree anyone using/consuming should sign a waiver, FOREVER, from public health benefits, social security, and any other welfare.
It is not “libertarian” to subsidize pot use and the health effects.
If legalization of pot must occur (I don’t se it being stopped), it needs to have a high amount of “stupid tax” attched to it, like alcohol and cigs.
Nord, Pat,
Clearly you both of you overlook the hate because you are clueless when you are being hateful:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/266309
Kevin,
I know you want to redirect from what you said but, the referendum doesn’t say what you said it does. What you said was a lie.
Kevin,
Omar may well be pro-BDS. Many Democrats are anti-BDS. Omar’s bill includes nothing about BDS, or Israel. It directly addresses the constitutionality of the right of Americans to boycott based on the first amendment. What specifically with the referendum do you have issues with?
Pat:
k painted himself into a corner with his dishonesty and, as you pointed out, wants to deflect the blame for that dishonesty elsewhere. That seems to be the MO of the self-proclaimed conservatives of today. He is taking his clues from the liar-in-chief in the WH.
Ahh….but it IS “libertarian” to legalize pot. That is the problem. I think the question “Am I my brother’s keeper?” was answered, authoritatively, in Genesis. Libertarian “philosophy” directly contradicts the answer given in that story. That story is also foundation for Edmund Burke’s survey of Conservatism–to him, the Conservative is concerned with family (first!!), then village, then nation. And of course, that concern is for the welfare of those people and entities. Clearly, a Conservative would not willy-nilly allow pot usage (nor adultery, nor homosexual activity, etc., etc.)
You maintain that ‘it’s legal.’ I say “So what?” Abortion is legal, too.
Be careful of what you adopt as “philosophy” because it may not be remotely Christian.
Libertarian is a political philosophy.
Christianity is a religious way of life.
They are not mutually exclusive.
I dislike sin of adultery and homosexuality, but we should not make it illegal. Church members should correct their fellow Christian’s in this willful sinful error under Matthew 18. Mandating Matthew correction of sin under law, defeats the purpose of Matthew 18, joyful repentance.
Pat, nord
Did you read the link?
How can you boycott Israeli products without a Jewish state label?
Your hate flows through.
Actually, Kevin, the ARE mutually exclusive, although they can live in the same house so long as nobody asks too many questions. As you may not know, adultery and homosexual conduct were illegal in the USA until about 1965 or so. You cannot name one good reason for that to have changed, can you?
Libertarianism, like all other Leftisms, cannot abide moral imperatives in civil law. At some point in time, you’ll recognize that pattern, I hope.
Dad29
Illegal yes, but rarely prosecuted.
What good is a law if no one is willing to enforce it?
Kevin,
Again, please point to the wording in the resolution you find objectionable.
k:
Yup, read the link. And it proves you are lying. Just because you made something up doesn’t mean that others will believe you. Or won’t your ego allow that to happen?
Pat and Nord,
How can the BDS boycott Israeli products if they are not properly labeled from the Jewish state?
Your hate is showing.
Kevin,
Why are you, of all people, against people’s first amendment rights?
All products are labeled with country of origin. Are you proposing that legislation be drafted to eliminate labeling?
Are you proposing that legislation be drafted prohibiting people from boycotting?
Kevin,
Trump has called for boycotts. What’s the difference?
https://tribunecontentagency.com/article/a-history-of-trumps-calls-for-boycotts/
Weird. The authoritarian conservatives never seem to attack the libertarians as fiercely as they attack the liberals, and the libertarians keep voting for authoritarians.
” I dislike sin of adultery and homosexuality, but we should not make it illegal.”
Odd that you of all people would say that, as you have on numerous occasions demanded that the Clintons be locked up; Bill for his indiscretions, and Hillary as an enabler. Hypocrite, thy name be kevin!
And no, I didn’t save the exact quote.
PS: Adultery is still illegal in WI, but you support both a president and a WI SC justice that are adulterers.
Nord,
Clinton should be locked up for his rape of Juanita Broderick.
Hillary should be locked up for her compromising classified sata.
I never said they should be locked up for their sewer-like morality.
Stop bearing false witness.
Sorry k, but you did numerous times. That is the big drawback with your constant fabrication; you can’t remember what you said previously as you don’t remember what is, or isn’t, true. Or perhaps your pathology won’t allow for discernment.
So why do you support those scofflaws?
Nord,
PRODUCE THE QUOTE THEN!
You can never produce the quote… that is frustrating issue when you fling monkey poo about what I say…you nearly always get it wrong.
You should apologize for your latest dishaonesty and false witness.
or
PRODUCE the quote where you claimed I said Clintons should be locked up for their adultery.
I called them reprehensible. I called them typical liberal sewer of moraility. I called their actions evil…but never have I saud they should be locked up over it.
k:
Since you can’t (or won’t) read what purpose would providing the exact quote serve? And I previously explained myself (see above).
And since you are so hung up on exactness, provide proof of “The bill essentially requires a Jewish star be put on all products from Israel”.
Except it doesn’t. Hypocrite, thy name is kevin !
Nord,
You would be the one with the reading challenge. I beleive the word for that is “special”.
Pat, Nord,
Nancy Pelosi labeled the BDS resolution “anti-Semetic” last month at APAC.
You both oppose Nancy Pelosi and side with the radical, hateful, squad?
I agree with Nancy Pelosi here, because I am willing to say when a liberal is actually right about something.
So both of you are so radical in your hate that Nancy Pelosi would denounce you?
Kevin,
You’re skirting my question as to what the exact wording you find objectionable with Omar’s bill? I’m not necessarily siding with anyone on BDS. But the bill put forward says nothing about BDS.
Again, are you proposing that legislation be drafted prohibiting people from boycotting?
k:
So now you resort to making fun of folks with reading disabilities. How trumpian of you. Unlike you I encourage folks to read at whatever level and ability they possess. The more they read the more proficient they become. Try it, you may benefit.
Your point?
By the way, I forgot to mention that fornication was ALSO illegal until the mid-’60’s.
It is irrelevant to mention that the laws were rarely enforced. Following your lead, one could argue that laws surrounding immigration should also be stricken.
Wait, wait!!! Someone already did that!! Are you really AOC??
dad,
We are enforcing immigration law…its just authorities are being overwhelemed and Democrats are blocking any solution.
Let’s put adultery, forinication, and and homosexual acts on the books…you really want to lock up all the Democrats, and a good chunk of Republicans? That would be a worse welfare situation than we have now.
Eh. There are 10’s of thousands of illegals who walk across the border undetected. And there are 100’s of thousands who are loose somewhere in the country after skipping their immigration hearing.
If you call that “enforcement,” well…….
Losing most of the New York and California voters to imprisonment over sex-related crimes will be good for the country in the long run.
Dad,
No argument from me on that, but enforcement is occurring despite the chunk slipping through enforcement cracks.
Funny how outraged the media and the nuts in the left are outraged by Trump’s statement about going back to their own countries….
When there’s this from one of the “four” a full 4 years ago… Rashida Tlaib “Deport this asshole”. But that’s not racist or anything.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/deport-this-a-hole-donald-trump-jr-calls-out-rashida-tlaib-for-2015-tweet
Jason,
The hypocrite lefties here will not denounce that because she is part of their tribe, no matter how extra vile and disgusting her statement is compared to Trump’s.
What I don’t get is: all these liberals who hate America promised to leave if Trump was elected, now trump invites them to do what they promised…and they are ones upset?
Liberalism is a really bad mental illness.
Dad29, somehow all those border-crossers find a way to support themselves once inside the country. Those who hire them are guilty, right? Why no equivalent outrage about them?
Kev, “produce the quote” would require what – that Le Roi had saved a bookmark to some previous comment of yours? And then if we found it, we could discuss your nuance?
So the Squad is supposed to go back to their countries and fix what’s wrong, but if they point out something that’s wrong in the USA, they’re not supposed to stay here and fix it? And you’re the one who is upset?
jjf,
If Nord cannot produce the quote he should not be making the erronous, false witnes, accusation. I know what I have said. I told him he is wrong, and he refuses to apologize.
That makes nord reprehensible, if he cannot produce proof to back his claim. It makes you reprehensible that you defend his awful behavior.
You do like the dramatic words, don’t you? Everything’s over the top, all the time. Always at full volume, indignant at the slightest slight. You must be a delightful person to work for. Or are you only like this on B&S?
jjf,
Only like this with people who are dishonest, and when I gently correct, persist in their dishonesty.
It is a question of character.
k:
See, there you go calling other folks names in a futile attempt to deflect from your dishonesty. “Reprehensible” is certainly a gentle correction, right?
And as I have tried in vain to explain to you, I have much more important things to do than copy all of your hyperbolic and disingenuous quotes. But here are a couple that I did write down because they are just too funny:
“the earth is 6000 years old”
“the pope isn’t a christian”
“humans control the weather” (that was just a couple weeks ago)
“The bill essentially requires a Jewish star be put on all products from Israel.” (see above)
Nord,
There you are again…
All 4 are incorrect outright or in context.
I am especially hacked off at 3rd one…I was criticizing your warming cult idea that you think humans can control the weather with CO2 cult policy.
You continue your false witness.
Awful. Just awful.
Nope, they are all correct. Are you ashamed of your past positions, and are now backing off?
And I have never, ever said that humans can control the weather. I told you that last time, and I just told you again. Why do you feel the need to be so dishonest?
Awful, just awful…..
Nord,
Show me my quote on all 4. (accurate, in context, please).
…and if humans cannot control the weather…why do you support hurtful CO2 cult policies?
You sure are a slow learner. But nobody is surprised.
And this is the exact quote, spelling errors and all (see above):
“The bill essentially requires a Jewish star be put on all products from Israel.
That is reprehensible….on many levels.
You have Jew haters trying to ostricize Jews.
Omar is the ring leader of this bill.
the fact you are blind to it while you worry about the kindergarden stuff Trump does, says a lot about you.
There is news footage of reporters asking Omar if she condemns Antifa terrorisn and Islamic terrorism…she refuses to condemn. It is an easy question to answer. she refuses to answer because she favors both groups.
Get with the program.
I don’t. You are making that up.
And yet again you exhibit your ignorance of the whole CC/GW issue.
Nord,
The hateful bill was defeated 398 to 17. With the hateful squad you support, being 4 of the 17.
Well done on choosing sides on this one.
I see you cannot source quotes again.
Nord,
If global warming policies will not improve the weather…why do it?
Give it a break k. You are only digging a deeper hole. Before you embarrass yourself any further get up to speed on the difference between climate and weather. We all realize that abstract thought is a struggle for you, as is any type of scientific inquiry. Until you realize there is whole big wonderful world outside your tunnel vision you will be stymied by reality. Knowledge is a wonderful thing !!
Kevin,
Why are you unable to answer my questions?
Nord,
So now NPR is full of crap?
https://www.npr.org/2019/06/08/730456004/more-people-see-climate-change-in-record-floods-and-extreme-weather-will-that-me
k:
Not at all. But you really need to read the articles that you post to augment your argument that really say something different. Reading comprehension fails you every time, but you refuse to make any attempt to improve your skills. A mind is a terrible thing to waste….
Nord,
Al gore was notorious for saying weather=climate.
You global warming cultists ripped him for that.
Now you agree with NPR that weather=climate again?
You change your positions more than Bill Clinton does with interns in the White House.
k:
We just went through that argument. If Gore said that climate and weather is the same, then he was wrong. You have been givernevery chance to prove you are a smarter man (or whatever gender you chose today) than Gore, but you chose to remain ignorant. Choices have consequences.
NPR didn’t say that that climate and weather is the same.
It looks like our respective positions have remained the same. And yours is wrong.
Nord,
The title of article asked “Do we owe and apology to Al Gore”! Clearly they are indicating climate drives weather in the article and the cultist cabal was wrong to savage Gore on the issue.
This is a very twisted religion you follow.
Us global warming deniers are clear: it is all bunk. Man cannot influence the weather.
Why don’t you get clear, and you will not look so foolish.
k said, “weather=climate”. Except it doesn’t.
And if you had read the article you provided you would find out the NPR doesn’t make that claim, either.
I can’t help you if you refuse to read, to learn, to progress out of your self-imposed darkness and move toward the light.
And in closing, weather does not equal climate. You can look it up.
And while you are at it prove that Gore says it does, and use the context in which it was said. Since you are a big fan of cherry picking show us your honesty.
Thanks.
PS: I don’t subscribe to religion,… look at all the trouble it causes you …
Nord,
So you refuse to apologize to Al Gore?
No need, you haven’t proved that in fact he said what you claim. Still waiting.
So NPR article is wrong?
What is it that you are claiming that the article says? And remember, I read all of it, not just the headline. If you think it says that man controls the weather, you are sadly mistaken. Ditto weather=climate.
Nord.
If man cannot control/change the weather, why inflict all this policy pain on the economy for no reason?
Makes no sense at all.
k:
Afraid to answer? Waffling on your position? Running out of lies? But you are correct; you have no sense, common or otherwise.
Nord,
Just trying to lead you to coherency on just what global warming religion is trying to accomplish if it can’t control the weather, but we have to tear up economy because of uncontrollable weather?
Let me know when you get your Marxist convictions coherent.
k:
Since you refuse to clarify what it is that you claim the NPR piece says, and that you can’t/won’t prove that Gore said what you claim he said, there is nothing to respond to. The only person I know of that says man can control the weather is you, and you can’t provide any source for that position. Like I said before, I don’t make decisions based on the opinions of others.
And FYI; neither religion nor marxism is involved in science. That is another one of your false claims.
Nord,
If climate change is the cause of all the weather in the article…are you not trying to control the weather…what is the purpose of the draconian Marxist Climate change CO2 curbig legislation? Just to inflict pain onothers?
Kevin,
Now how about answering my questions.
Just as I can’t talk baseball with my dog, it is fruitless to try and explain the difference to you. You don’t want answers, you just want to argue.
Nord,
So you keep the secrets of your religion to yourself.
Understood.
I am always willing to share.
Kevin,
Much like Omar refusing to answer a reporters question, I guess it’s my privilege to interpret your silence as an affirmation to my questions.
k:
Nope, no secrets, no religion. I’ll leave those to you.
Nord,
Prove it.
Prove what? That religion isn’t involved in science? Can’t prove a negative.
Nord,
There is nothing scientific about the GW/CC religion claiming its action can change weather patterns.
Kevin took his ball and went home after losing the debate.
k:
Did you think through what you just wrote, or does all your nonsense appear to you in a cloud??
It’s tough to impart the obvious to the blind.
OK, point out the obvious to this blind guy. Facts would be a bonus. Thanks.