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0738, 24 Jun 21

Assembly Unanimously Passes Nut Juice Bill

It’s clear protectionism of a state industry, but that doesn’t necessarily make it a bad idea. Generally, however, I don’t think that consumers are confused that almond milk doesn’t come from cows.

MADISON, Wis. —  Wisconsin is known as America’s Dairyland, but the rising popularity of plant and nut-based dairy alternatives is becoming a concern for many in the dairy industry.

 

Yesterday, three bills that would block dairy and meat alternatives from using the labels “meat” or “cheese” on their packaging were passed unanimously by the state assembly. Now the bills move to the senate.

 

Many in support of the bills are concerned that labeling alternative products as “meat” or “dairy” can be misleading to consumers. In a study done by the Wisconsin Cheesemakers Association, about one-fourth of consumers who picked up a plant-based cheese alternative believed that it contained dairy milk due to the cheese label.

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0738, 24 June 2021

39 Comments

  1. Mar

    You severely underestimate the stupidity of consumers.
    Look at all the warnings on products that we think are basic.

  2. dad29

    How does one milk an almond?

  3. Mar

    The almonds tiny little teats and they are milked by the Keebler Elves.

  4. Jason

    >How does one milk an almond?

    The same way one milks a cat Focker!

  5. MjM

    No problem at all with this. I wouldn’t call it protectionism. I’d call it being honest.

    “Companies that produce the meat and dairy alternatives argue that they have a constitutional right to free speech.”

    What they don’t have is a right to is false advertisement. See: FTC .

    If said companies admit that they concoct meat and dairy “alternatives” then they can’t – or shouldn’t be able to – advertise their products named with world-wide agreed upon meat and dairy terminology. There is no other reason to name your additive-ladened soy goop as “burger” other than attempting to confuse. This is particularly true when dealing with company packaged/frozen foods, like that box of twelve “patties” or pack of six “sausages”.

    Aside from the processed chemical soups that makes up most “alternatives”, who in their right mind would want swallow plant-based “cheese”? And you will notice there are no companies making ground beef into a kale “alternative”.

    For reference, your Burger King Impossible Whopper ($1-$2 more than the beef version):

    “…. genetically modified heme iron that Impossible Burger adds to their product to create that juicy red color and beefy taste. Heme is a high-quality iron that is naturally present in all beef. Impossible Foods was able to re-create that essential nutrient by taking the DNA from soybean plants, where heme is found in the root nodules, and inserting it into a genetically engineered yeast, according to its website.”

    Bon appetit.

  6. Le Roi du Nord

    But then how do you deal with Larry Kudlow and his “plant-based beer” nonsense?

    Almond or soy “milk” isn’t milk, and should not be advertised as such. Same with veggie burgers. Call them what they are.

  7. Mar

    Yeah, they’re called veggie burgers. Like crab burgers, shrimp burgers,, bacon burgers, goat burgers etc.. Burgers are not legally defined.
    If they were called hamburgers, then that would be another thing. There are laws defing that.

  8. Jason

    > In a study done by the Wisconsin Cheesemakers Association, about one-fourth of consumers who picked up a plant-based cheese alternative believed that it contained dairy milk due to the cheese label.

    That’s the problem with nanny-government – they have to legislate to the lowest common denominator. That is also the reason why Owen allows Leroy to post here.

  9. Tuerqas

    MJM-
    “If said companies admit that they concoct meat and dairy “alternatives” then they can’t – or shouldn’t be able to – advertise their products named with world-wide agreed upon meat and dairy terminology. ”

    Heh, you mean like using the term ‘marriage’ for any contract pairing today? Man/man, man/dog, girl/antique clock, it is all very simple really: Have the Dictionary people re-define ‘beef’ to mean anything that ‘tastes like’ beef. It is being done constantly. There are pages and pages of words changed by liberals to mean new things.

  10. MjM

    Nazi Nort wonders: “But then how do you deal with Larry Kudlow and his “plant-based beer” nonsense? ”

    This is what you get when one is lazy and sits around reading what other idiots write about what someone else actually said. Same as the “Trump says inject bleach” lie.

    Here is Kudlow’s actual comment:

    “There’s a study coming out of the University of Michigan which says that to meet the Biden Green New Deal targets America has to, get this, America has to stop eating meat, stop eating poultry and fish, seafood, eggs, dairy, and animal-based fats. Ok, got that? No burger on July 4. No steaks on the barbecue. I’m sure Middle America is just going to love that. Can you grill those Brussels sprouts? So get ready: You can throw back a plant-based beer with your grilled Brussels sprouts and wave your American flag. Call it July 4 green. Now, I’m making fun of this because I intend to make fun of it. ”

    Unrealized by the leftist opining hacks, who had a gay ol’ time of mocking Kudlow as a fool – just like you, numbnutz – was that Kudlow was actually mocking THEM… and you.

    Plant-based beer? Well that’s Just dandy by envirowacko standards! Get sloshed, bro!

    The sound you hear is the snark zooming over your pointy little head.

    Hell freezes: “Almond or soy “milk” isn’t milk, and should not be advertised as such. Same with veggie burgers. Call them what they are.”

    That one bone in you little toe still has some sense. Tell it to speak to the rest of you skeleton.

  11. MjM

    @ Tuerqas: I wasn’t lyin’. It’s Official.

    2. DEFINITIONS
    2.1 Milk is the normal mammary secretion of milking animals obtained from one or more milkings without either addition to it or extraction from it, intended for consumption as liquid milk or for further processing.

    ……

    3. GENERAL PRINCIPLES
    Foods shall be described or presented in such a manner as to ensure the correct use of dairy terms intended for milk and milk products, to protect consumers from being confused or misled and to ensure fair practices in the food trade.

    …..

    4. APPLICATION OF DAIRY TERMS

    4.2 Use of the term milk
    4.2.1 Only a food complying with the definition in Section 2.1 may be named “milk”.

    — “GENERAL STANDARD FOR THE USE OF DAIRY TERMS (CODEX STAN 206 -1999)”, Food and Agriculture Organization of The United Nations

  12. Le Roi du Nord

    mjm:

    No nazis here, but only plant-based beer allowed in or near our abode. And grilled Brussels sprouts are great. And I have several flags to wave on the 4th.

    So get rid of your boxed mac and fake cheese and eat/drink something healthy.

  13. Jason

    >but only plant-based beer allowed in or near our abode.

    Why don’t you share with us a beer that is not plant based, if you can.

  14. Le Roi du Nord

    Geez j, you are even less aware than kudlow.

    I share plant-based beer with friends, family (most of them, anyway). but certainly not with the likes of you. Buy your own.

  15. Mar

    “And I have several flags to wave on the 4th.”
    Yep. NAMBLA, Special Olympics, Antifa, BLM and Soviet Union flags.

  16. Le Roi du Nord

    Wrong again, mar. I have none of those, but I wouldn’t be ashamed to fly the Special Olympics flag in honor of those amazing athletes, coaches, and sponsors.

    You are starting the weekend off on the wrong foot.

  17. Mar

    So, again, you got nothing. What a coward.
    And, yes, these are the causes you believe in. You have proven time after time.
    If you want us to stop mocking you, even though I think you enjoy being called a pervert, then maybe you should do something about it.
    But keep on being a little Pervert Boy, Le Roi. I think you enjoy the honor.

  18. Le Roi du Nord

    Sorry mar, I have none of those flags you mentioned, but I already told you that. You are truly a slow learner.

    Your “mocking” is just your juvenile way to get your jollies. If that floats your boat and makes you feel more relevant there is nothing I could do to get you to stop. You will continue on, regardless of how foolish and insecure it makes you look. And you have set a pretty low bar.

    Have a great remaining weekend.

  19. Mar

    I’m working today, something you are not used to.
    So you accept your title of Pervert Boy, Troll Boy, Coward, Liar etc..
    Good to know, coward.

  20. Mar

    And no, I don’t get my jollies calling you names.
    But since you decided to disrespect me, be hateful towards me and lie about me, well, I’m just giving what you give me.
    From me, a nice guy to an asshole which is you Le Roi.

  21. Jason

    >Geez j, you are even less aware than kudlow.

    And we’re both far more aware than you, Leroy the Lowest Common Denominator. Or should we start calling you Plus Petit Dénominateur Commun du Nord? I like that, it has a ring to it, just like the marbles in your simp head.

  22. dad29

    What they don’t have is a right to is false advertisement.

    THAT space is reserved for politicians and Government employees.

  23. Le Roi du Nord

    I have worked plenty to weekends. We even called them weekends.

    No mar, I don’t “accept” those names, but there isn’t anything I can to control your immature impulses. You have to grow up in your own. Or maybe you never will.

    One has to earn respect, so it would be impossible for me to “disrespect “ you, since you never earned any to begin with. And if you haven’t noticed, I have never called you, nor anyone else , a pervert, murderer, molester, and the scores of other ”disrespectful” names you pin on me. But obviously it gives you a thrill.

  24. Mar

    Nope, no thrill at all. But since you have admitted that you are hateful and disrespectful, so be it.
    You’re just a turd in a turd salad.
    But you do realize I don’t disrespect other liberals here, just the hateful, uneducated cowardly perverted ones.
    But you enjoy being called that, just like you and the perverted judge love to watch movies together

  25. Mar

    It’s ten o’clock and Senile Joe and Le Roi are in bed.
    After they ate mush for dinner, put their false teeth in a glass, got their diapers on for the night, got the doggy pads under them in case they have an accident and kissed goodnight, by their significant others, the fake doctor Jill for Biden and the perverted judge for Le Roi.

  26. Mar

    And Le Roi, the fake doctor Jill Biden does not have a PhD, just another lie from you.

  27. Le Roi du Nord

    No mar , I was up long past 10:00CDT. I can’t speak for the President.

    And no, I didn’t have mush for dinner( nor for supper), and all my teeth are mine. And no doggie pad either. And the kiss god night was with my lovely wife.

    Amazing feat of epic failure there, mar. You got those all wrong.

  28. Tuerqas

    “One has to earn respect, so it would be impossible for me to “disrespect “ you, since you never earned any to begin with. ”

    Interesting theory Le Roi. So basically if I do not respect, say Joe Biden, anything I say about him is not disrespectful because I do not feel he has earned my respect? I wonder if a lawyer could ever win a suit in a court based on that line of thinking. I strongly doubt it.

    And yes, I must be ignorant indeed, because I have always thought that most every beer I have ever drunk has been ‘plant based’. Please enlighten me, what is the animal product found in almost all beer? Even if you were to include yeast as an ‘animal’ (I still think of fungi as plants), the primary ingredients of whatever mash is used and hops are both plants and therefore all beer could and should still be called ‘plant-based’. What makes most beer not plant based?

  29. Jason

    > What makes most beer not plant based?

    Careful, he actually thinks he outsmarted me with his stupid comment June 25, 2021 at 7:42 pm. He is so stupid he doesn’t even realize the point I made… all he did was reinforce it indelibly.

  30. Le Roi du Nord

    You guys Ned to ask those questions of kudlow. All the beer I ever drank was plant based. He tried a snarky comment and it backfired on him. So check with him.

  31. Mar

    Who’s Ned?

  32. Jason

    Indelibly x 2.

  33. Le Roi du Nord

    Ned the Dead, former conservative conspiracy follower, tipped trump as to the miracle cure for coronavirus, later sued for malpractice. Now lives in AZ, writes and promotes bogus medical theories.

  34. Mar

    You better be checked by a doctor for a stroke, bud.

  35. Le Roi du Nord

    Why, mar? I just decided to write fictional comments like you do, but not to use offensive language, and not to call others names. I have never accused you of having a stroke, nor anyone else, why would you accuse me for doing what you do? You just can’t get past your severe case of double standards.

  36. Mar

    You love it when I call you Pervert Boy, Troll Boy etc. You seek attention, just like a 1 year old. That’s the only reason you post here, is to seek attention for yourself and then play the victim. You’re just a narrisicst. You don’t post here with any intention of posting anything intelligent. You get your ass handed to you in every debate. You lie constantly. You’re hateful and a bore.
    And you say I have double standards? You cannot even critized the most evil liberal, like the pervert judge who watches babies being raped.

  37. Le Roi du Nord

    Wrong again, mar. But that is expected from you each and every time.

  38. Mar

    So, once again, you show nothing but cowardice, Pervert Boy Le Roi.
    Cannot even defend yourself.
    Pathetic.

  39. Le Roi du Nord

    mar:

    There is no need to defend myself if I didn’t do anything wrong. The burden is all on you to prove your claims. You know, the old American “innocent until proven guilty” philosophy. Or is that too complicated of a concept for you to grasp?

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