We are going to see a crash here, it’s going to happen very fast and it’s going to be dramatic. The meds he’s been given for the past two + years only work for so long and when the effectivity ends, the damage is done.
All jokes, all partisan politics, all personal feelings aside… this man has been abused. He should have retired and spent a few years with the family, instead of being pumped full of meds to try to keep his brain functional. Dementia is not an unknown disease and what has happened to him is heartbreaking.
MjM
on October 24, 2022 at 10:15 pm
Going to?
Happy Birthday to President Kamala!
Oh, wait….
And now you can have 8 bullets in your round!
Um…
Hey, it’s a sure thing that the once-in-a-generation investment of over a billion 200, a trillion, 200 billion dollars is gonna help!
Uh…
And besides, Dr. Biden thinks that……uh,…… his wife thinks that…….. uh,………. that he …………uh, …………. that, ….that they’re ………..that they’re….…doing something very importantzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Not to mention all those colleges chasing him to be dean.
All partisan politics aside, I have zero sympathy for this life-long lying scuzbucket pedo-incestuous turd. The man has abused himself and everyone around him willingly and willfully.
Merlin
on October 25, 2022 at 9:10 am
>Who is running this show?
Not Joe. I wonder how many times he’s asked the room to tell him what he thinks.
Tuerqas
on October 25, 2022 at 9:56 am
Is dementia really lying, though? I kind of feel like lying needs to be intentional, otherwise it is speaking in ignorance or loss of mental functions.
I think I am between Jason and MjM on Biden. He volunteered to be President despite what everyone knew what age was doing to him, so little sympathy, but it is sad to see.
Merlin
on October 25, 2022 at 12:09 pm
Lying used to require an intent to deceive, but not these days. Now simply disagreeing with someone else’s truth brands you a liar no matter how unrealistic their truth. Seems like there ought to be another term for that but I don’t know what it would be.
dad29
on October 25, 2022 at 12:42 pm
Lying used to require an intent to deceive
Nope. Thomas Aquinas was merciless on that topic. If you were outside while it was raining, and you cam inside for 10 minutes and someone asked “Is it raining?” and you said “Yes” but it had already stopped raining–well, then, you are a liar under TA’s (authoritative) moral judgment. But since it was an un-intentional lie, the guilt was minimal.
Tuerqas
on October 25, 2022 at 3:16 pm
I get what both of you are saying and it is certainly true, Merlin, that disagreeing with someone else’s truth gets you BRANDED a liar by them and their group, but what many people think today today does not create new truth. Most of those people couldn’t tell you how many States are in the US or how many foreign countries border the US. I have no problem disagreeing with their opinions on lies.
And Dad29, I would love to know if Thomas Aquinas had stated anything concerning mental capacity on the subject. Back then, madness was next devil worshipping so I don’t know if he did or not. If he thought the very old who had lost the capacity to recognize truth from fiction were lying liars from Lyonia, full of sin that they did not have the capacity to ask for penance on, then I have no trouble disagreeing with him.
Mar
on October 25, 2022 at 8:52 pm
And the liberals remain silent.
They know they have a senile president and they don’t care.
What a shame.
No bad Orange Man, but the country lays inin ruins by the extremist liberal agenda, which has proven to be a horrible failure.
MjM
on October 25, 2022 at 10:53 pm
Mr. T asks: “ Is dementia really lying, though? ”
No. It’s not. Babbling incoherently is a sure sign mental disorder.
But with 50+ years of using self-aggrandizing and failure-deflecting lying his Swiss cheese brain is now on auto pilot. You can see it every time he repeats a lie that had been proven so years earlier and when he makes up new shit to match and make himself appealing to whoever he is speaking to (see: truck driving, lumber jacking, full-time professorship, etc, etc.). Practice, you might say, makes perfect. At this point he can’t help it.
But that wasn’t always the case.
I went to law school on a full academic scholarship, the only one in my class that had a full academic scholarship. …and in fact ended up in the top half of my class. I was the outstanding student in the political science department at the end of my year. . . I graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school – Babblin’ Joe, running for president, 1988.
Every one of those of those claims was a lie. He knew it. What is amazing is how easily it rolled out of his mouth (you can hunt for the CSPAN video if you wish). He also lied about participating in civil rights marches during his first prez bid 34 years ago, a lie debunked at the time but which he repeated and repeated and repeated, the latest being just last week.
It was an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them. – Babblin’ Joe, 2001, lying to an audience at the University of Delaware three days after 9/11.
Six years later…
Let me tell you a little story. I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on Dec. 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly — and I never pursued it — drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries.
You can say what ever you want about his current mentality, but it has nothing to do with a man who would sentiently lie about the death of his wife and kid for political gain.
dad29
on October 26, 2022 at 4:14 am
disagreeing with someone else’s truth
Perhaps you meant that ironically? You don’t really mean that there are two ‘truths’ which are in disagreement, do you?
Merlin
on October 26, 2022 at 12:35 pm
>Perhaps you meant that ironically?
Oh, yeah.
Tuerqas
on October 26, 2022 at 1:20 pm
>disagreeing with someone else’s truth
I actually took that literally. Today, different news sources report two different sets of ‘facts’ on every politicizable news event. There is only one real truth, but if you are reading two different accounts from a left and right news agency, there are lies of omission, taking one person’s view and not a person who disagrees with their politics, while the other news agency takes the latter statement and not the former and often omit other facts themselves. It is enough that either one side believes a completely fabricated conclusion or both sides believe half truths because it is all they read.
I did not take Merlin’s statement as irony, I took it as a realistic view on what is happening today. There is only one real truth of any issue, but another truth is that making a Dem and a Rep believe the real truth on anything is near impossible.
Merlin
on October 26, 2022 at 1:54 pm
I was trying to be sarcastic about the Left’s penchant for adopting alternate realities. I find the practice fascinating. Effed up, but fascinating.
I saw an image not long ago of a 3D cylinder lit from the circular end that cast a circular shadow. The shadow was labeled “true.” Another light source from the side cast a rectangular shadow. That shadow was also labeled “true.” The overall image labeled the 3D cylinder itself and the shadows it cast as “truth.”
Big picture.
Tuerqas
on October 27, 2022 at 9:05 am
That is basically how I took it, and while I find the left has taken alternate reality to the next level, news from the right (political news at the least) is edging closer to the same practice all the time. The 3D cylinder really is a great image of what is happening today.
dad29
on October 27, 2022 at 10:12 am
there are lies of omission, taking one person’s view and not a person who disagrees with their politics, while the other news agency takes the latter statement and not the former and often omit other facts themselves
Don’t forget the “relative” scams. When I say “It’s cold,” it’s a relative statement unless I define “cold.” That’s an excellent way for liars to lie; simply refuse to define a term.
Tuerqas
on October 27, 2022 at 1:09 pm
Absolutely, and probably my least favorite type. Nothing gives me more contempt than when someone I am having a ‘discussion’ with suddenly says, ‘I never told you what I believe, so you are just assuming based on hints I gave, but do not claim, hahaha!’
You have never done that Dad29 and I appreciate it.
We are going to see a crash here, it’s going to happen very fast and it’s going to be dramatic. The meds he’s been given for the past two + years only work for so long and when the effectivity ends, the damage is done.
All jokes, all partisan politics, all personal feelings aside… this man has been abused. He should have retired and spent a few years with the family, instead of being pumped full of meds to try to keep his brain functional. Dementia is not an unknown disease and what has happened to him is heartbreaking.
Going to?
Happy Birthday to President Kamala!
Oh, wait….
And now you can have 8 bullets in your round!
Um…
Hey, it’s a sure thing that the once-in-a-generation investment of over a billion 200, a trillion, 200 billion dollars is gonna help!
Uh…
And besides, Dr. Biden thinks that……uh,…… his wife thinks that…….. uh,………. that he …………uh, …………. that, ….that they’re ………..that they’re….…doing something very importantzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Not to mention all those colleges chasing him to be dean.
All partisan politics aside, I have zero sympathy for this life-long lying scuzbucket pedo-incestuous turd. The man has abused himself and everyone around him willingly and willfully.
>Who is running this show?
Not Joe. I wonder how many times he’s asked the room to tell him what he thinks.
Is dementia really lying, though? I kind of feel like lying needs to be intentional, otherwise it is speaking in ignorance or loss of mental functions.
I think I am between Jason and MjM on Biden. He volunteered to be President despite what everyone knew what age was doing to him, so little sympathy, but it is sad to see.
Lying used to require an intent to deceive, but not these days. Now simply disagreeing with someone else’s truth brands you a liar no matter how unrealistic their truth. Seems like there ought to be another term for that but I don’t know what it would be.
Lying used to require an intent to deceive
Nope. Thomas Aquinas was merciless on that topic. If you were outside while it was raining, and you cam inside for 10 minutes and someone asked “Is it raining?” and you said “Yes” but it had already stopped raining–well, then, you are a liar under TA’s (authoritative) moral judgment. But since it was an un-intentional lie, the guilt was minimal.
I get what both of you are saying and it is certainly true, Merlin, that disagreeing with someone else’s truth gets you BRANDED a liar by them and their group, but what many people think today today does not create new truth. Most of those people couldn’t tell you how many States are in the US or how many foreign countries border the US. I have no problem disagreeing with their opinions on lies.
And Dad29, I would love to know if Thomas Aquinas had stated anything concerning mental capacity on the subject. Back then, madness was next devil worshipping so I don’t know if he did or not. If he thought the very old who had lost the capacity to recognize truth from fiction were lying liars from Lyonia, full of sin that they did not have the capacity to ask for penance on, then I have no trouble disagreeing with him.
And the liberals remain silent.
They know they have a senile president and they don’t care.
What a shame.
No bad Orange Man, but the country lays inin ruins by the extremist liberal agenda, which has proven to be a horrible failure.
Mr. T asks: “ Is dementia really lying, though? ”
No. It’s not. Babbling incoherently is a sure sign mental disorder.
But with 50+ years of using self-aggrandizing and failure-deflecting lying his Swiss cheese brain is now on auto pilot. You can see it every time he repeats a lie that had been proven so years earlier and when he makes up new shit to match and make himself appealing to whoever he is speaking to (see: truck driving, lumber jacking, full-time professorship, etc, etc.). Practice, you might say, makes perfect. At this point he can’t help it.
But that wasn’t always the case.
I went to law school on a full academic scholarship, the only one in my class that had a full academic scholarship. …and in fact ended up in the top half of my class. I was the outstanding student in the political science department at the end of my year. . . I graduated with three degrees from undergraduate school – Babblin’ Joe, running for president, 1988.
Every one of those of those claims was a lie. He knew it. What is amazing is how easily it rolled out of his mouth (you can hunt for the CSPAN video if you wish). He also lied about participating in civil rights marches during his first prez bid 34 years ago, a lie debunked at the time but which he repeated and repeated and repeated, the latest being just last week.
It was an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them. – Babblin’ Joe, 2001, lying to an audience at the University of Delaware three days after 9/11.
Six years later…
Let me tell you a little story. I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on Dec. 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly — and I never pursued it — drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries.
You can say what ever you want about his current mentality, but it has nothing to do with a man who would sentiently lie about the death of his wife and kid for political gain.
disagreeing with someone else’s truth
Perhaps you meant that ironically? You don’t really mean that there are two ‘truths’ which are in disagreement, do you?
>Perhaps you meant that ironically?
Oh, yeah.
>disagreeing with someone else’s truth
I actually took that literally. Today, different news sources report two different sets of ‘facts’ on every politicizable news event. There is only one real truth, but if you are reading two different accounts from a left and right news agency, there are lies of omission, taking one person’s view and not a person who disagrees with their politics, while the other news agency takes the latter statement and not the former and often omit other facts themselves. It is enough that either one side believes a completely fabricated conclusion or both sides believe half truths because it is all they read.
I did not take Merlin’s statement as irony, I took it as a realistic view on what is happening today. There is only one real truth of any issue, but another truth is that making a Dem and a Rep believe the real truth on anything is near impossible.
I was trying to be sarcastic about the Left’s penchant for adopting alternate realities. I find the practice fascinating. Effed up, but fascinating.
I saw an image not long ago of a 3D cylinder lit from the circular end that cast a circular shadow. The shadow was labeled “true.” Another light source from the side cast a rectangular shadow. That shadow was also labeled “true.” The overall image labeled the 3D cylinder itself and the shadows it cast as “truth.”
Big picture.
That is basically how I took it, and while I find the left has taken alternate reality to the next level, news from the right (political news at the least) is edging closer to the same practice all the time. The 3D cylinder really is a great image of what is happening today.
there are lies of omission, taking one person’s view and not a person who disagrees with their politics, while the other news agency takes the latter statement and not the former and often omit other facts themselves
Don’t forget the “relative” scams. When I say “It’s cold,” it’s a relative statement unless I define “cold.” That’s an excellent way for liars to lie; simply refuse to define a term.
Absolutely, and probably my least favorite type. Nothing gives me more contempt than when someone I am having a ‘discussion’ with suddenly says, ‘I never told you what I believe, so you are just assuming based on hints I gave, but do not claim, hahaha!’
You have never done that Dad29 and I appreciate it.